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9T micro drive hub by Canfield Brothers

gollub01

Chimp
Sep 10, 2010
50
0
jh wyoming
http://www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/Interbike-2011-Day-3,2762/Canfield-Brothers-9-Tooth-Hub,26263/sspomer,2


9 T micro drive hub by Canfield Brothers

Here it is everyone. The Canfield Brothers continue to innovate and introduce new products to help you go fast and make your bike better! This is the latest in their collection. The C2 9T micro-drive hub. With this hub you have the ability to run a cassette down to a 9 tooth. This hub is designed around a custom step-down free hub body allowing the fitment of a 10t and 9t cassette cog. The difference between the 11t and 9t is about 20%.


What does this mean? For XC riders you have the option of running a 1x set up with a 9-32/34 cassette. You can also run a 2x or 3x setup for the ultimate gear range. For DH riders, a 9-26 fit’s the bill nicely. With this cassette you are no longer required to run the typical 36-40 chain ring. Remember the 10t is 10% taller than an 11t. And the 9t is 10% taller than the 10t. There’s your 20% difference in gearing. This in combination with the new micro chain guide offerings, allow a chain ring of 28-32. You will gain BB clearance, have less chain and have the effect of longer crank arms when pedaling a smaller ring. I have to say the feeling is drastic.


I am very proud to say I have been riding this hub on my JedI for 2 + months now and its flawless. Riding, racing and lots of jumping. 32t up front with a MRP micro guide, and 9-26 on the back. The 9t feels like I’m pushing a 40t chain ring. Huge top end with a gain in clearance that just flat out works awesome. Makes my 165mm cranks feel longer. Now I want 160 or 155mm cranks. The engagement of this hub is audible and precise. It will be available in popular rear hub spacing configurations.

What do I think? I have not had to adjust it once since building up my wheel. NO BS. It exhibits little to no drag. I am completely sold on the benefits and see this as the MTB drive train future. The Canfield Brothers are always thinking ! Thank You Bros !
 

monkeyfcuker

Monkey
May 26, 2008
912
8
UK, Carlisle
I think it looks pretty stupid. Why not make the hub flanges way wider and do away with the pointless empty freehub part? This is afterall the DH forum, we don't need 10 gears. I'd be all over a true dishless 5/6 speed DH hub and have wanted one for ages, this is an opportunity missed.
 

William42

fork ways
Jul 31, 2007
3,908
634
I think it looks pretty stupid. Why not make the hub flanges way wider and do away with the pointless empty freehub part? This is afterall the DH forum, we don't need 10 gears. I'd be all over a true dishless 5/6 speed DH hub and have wanted one for ages, this is an opportunity missed.
appealing to all audiences instead of 5% of the population is an opportunity missed?
 

monkeyfcuker

Monkey
May 26, 2008
912
8
UK, Carlisle
Yep, a 9 tooth rear cog is a bit of a gimmick anyway, it's not something that 95% ( ;) ) of riders will want or require. If you're gonna go to the effort of making a hub capable of running 9 teeth (something I'd describe as a race type hub) go the whole way a give is an uber wide flanged dishless hub.
 

Gary

"S" is for "neo-luddite"
Aug 27, 2002
7,541
5,472
UK
If you're gonna go to the effort of making a hub capable of running 9 teeth (something I'd describe as a race type hub) 150mm hub at all go the whole way a give is an uber wide flanged dishless hub.
too many manufacturers missed the entire point right from the start IMO.
I even have a 165mm hub that doesn't build fully dishless :confused:
 

wood booger

Monkey
Jul 16, 2008
668
72
the land of cheap beer
http://www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/Interbike-2011-Day-3,2762/Canfield-Brothers-9-Tooth-Hub,26263/sspomer,2


9 T micro drive hub by Canfield Brothers

Here it is everyone. The Canfield Brothers continue to innovate and introduce new products to help you go fast and make your bike better! This is the latest in their collection. The C2 9T micro-drive hub. With this hub you have the ability to run a cassette down to a 9 tooth. This hub is designed around a custom step-down free hub body allowing the fitment of a 10t and 9t cassette cog. The difference between the 11t and 9t is about 20%.


What does this mean? For XC riders you have the option of running a 1x set up with a 9-32/34 cassette. You can also run a 2x or 3x setup for the ultimate gear range. For DH riders, a 9-26 fit’s the bill nicely. With this cassette you are no longer required to run the typical 36-40 chain ring. Remember the 10t is 10% taller than an 11t. And the 9t is 10% taller than the 10t. There’s your 20% difference in gearing. This in combination with the new micro chain guide offerings, allow a chain ring of 28-32. You will gain BB clearance, have less chain and have the effect of longer crank arms when pedaling a smaller ring. I have to say the feeling is drastic.


I am very proud to say I have been riding this hub on my JedI for 2 + months now and its flawless. Riding, racing and lots of jumping. 32t up front with a MRP micro guide, and 9-26 on the back. The 9t feels like I’m pushing a 40t chain ring. Huge top end with a gain in clearance that just flat out works awesome. Makes my 165mm cranks feel longer. Now I want 160 or 155mm cranks. The engagement of this hub is audible and precise. It will be available in popular rear hub spacing configurations.

What do I think? I have not had to adjust it once since building up my wheel. NO BS. It exhibits little to no drag. I am completely sold on the benefits and see this as the MTB drive train future. The Canfield Brothers are always thinking ! Thank You Bros !
Innovation? Haha! More like following the trend started by Specialized/DT 2 years ago and Hope in the past year.

Little late to the game bros. And once again, 9 tooth cogs suuuuck! Just ask the BMX crowd. Maybe on a DH bike, but XC no way! It's not like XC bikes suffer from low BB syndrome anyway.
 

dropmachine

Turbo Monkey
Sep 7, 2001
2,922
10
Your face.
Spoke to a few guys, and they mentioned the increased wear with a BMX 9 tooth cog is quite noticeable. If thats with a BMX cog and chain, imagine it with a 10 speed chain?
 

jonKranked

Detective Dookie
Nov 10, 2005
85,573
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Spoke to a few guys, and they mentioned the increased wear with a BMX 9 tooth cog is quite noticeable. If thats with a BMX cog and chain, imagine it with a 10 speed chain?
i've toasted a few 9T drivers because the diameter of the bearings they have to ride on is so small (and i'm not the only one to have this issue)

also, a number of chains had to be redesigned to accommodate the smaller diameter cog so they'd sit properly in between the teeth.
 

blackohio

Generous jaywalker
Mar 12, 2009
2,773
122
Hellafornia. Formerly stumptown.
what a bunch of armchair engineers. How about this, if theres something you desire, go spent the money to prototype and build it. Everyone here has ALL the answers but doesn't seem to be doing anything about it.

At least Chris/Lance are trying to make parts that make riding more enjoyable.
 

big-ted

Danced with A, attacked by C, fired by D.
Sep 27, 2005
1,400
47
Vancouver, BC
Making front chainring smaller but keeping similar gear ratio by making also the rear cogs smaller does not make the cranks feel any longer.
No kidding. I had to go back again to check if they REALLY wrote that... :twitch:

I have many doubts about this, but good on them for making this available to the masses.
 

gollub01

Chimp
Sep 10, 2010
50
0
jh wyoming
9t won't be for everyone. But I will say this. Everyone who has thrown a leg over my bike has loved it. They don't think I'm cool and their not trying to be my friend. They just enjoyed the experience. I'll say it again. Sometimes it feels like my cranks are longer (the crampons don't hurt) ! I'm not the only person to have said this. If anyone wants, come out to Jackson and you can give it a try. Most of you have never tried anything like this.
 

davec113

Monkey
May 24, 2009
419
0
I think it sounds like a good idea if there aren't issues with chain/cog wear, which it seems like there could... the chain isn't engaging very many cog teeth. Even if it's an issue I could see it being an advantage on a race bike... smaller chainguide and ring = less weight and better clearance before you hit the taco.

One issue is that DH bike frames are generally built around a 38+ tooth front chainring. Using a 32t ring is going to change the pedaling characteristics, and on some frames it might be enough to worry about, but that's really just speculation as I have not done any calculations.
 

Tame Ape

BUY HOPE!!!!!!!
Mar 4, 2003
2,284
1
NYC
9t won't be for everyone. But I will say this. Everyone who has thrown a leg over my bike has loved it. They don't think I'm cool and their not trying to be my friend. They just enjoyed the experience. I'll say it again. Sometimes it feels like my cranks are longer (the crampons don't hurt) ! I'm not the only person to have said this. If anyone wants, come out to Jackson and you can give it a try. Most of you have never tried anything like this.
Not to be that guy, but you're pushing a bigger gear than you're used so the leverage is a bit wonky. Nothing unique there. If you honestly feel that your cranks are changing length due to the inclusion of a 9t cog, then you've done something we've all dreamed of. Which is to engage the inner coaceptical valve in your mind and move your feet forward 5cm whilst simultaneously keeping them statically located.

For this I salute you!
 

xy9ine

Turbo Monkey
Mar 22, 2004
2,940
353
vancouver eastside
re: chain wear / reduced efficiency in the 9t cog w/ ref to bmx - unlike the bmx, we'll typically spend a small percentage of our time in the smallest cog. i'm a fan of low bb's, and all over the compact drivetrain concept. be cool to run on a slammed single ring trailbike as well.
 

DirtMcGirk

<b>WAY</b> Dumber than N8 (to the power of ten alm
Feb 21, 2008
6,379
1
Oz
Wait, what does this do?

Can you pretty please make me a 5 speed 150mm hub? Maybe in pink or purple?
 

Gary

"S" is for "neo-luddite"
Aug 27, 2002
7,541
5,472
UK
what a bunch of armchair engineers. How about this, if theres something you desire, go spent the money to prototype and build it. Everyone here has ALL the answers but doesn't seem to be doing anything about it.
it doesn't take any sort of engineer to realise that a stronger rear wheel with nice even spoke tension is the best way to go for a bike that spends a hell of a lot of it's time giong sideways.
I personally don't have the money to do as you suggest, but there are plenty companies who do that are capable of chucking out exactly what we're asking them for already, take Hope as one example (hope have been contacted more than a few times by riders looking for this very product) they already produce 150 and 135mm thru axle hubs and 6 speed freehubs, so one production run of a properly spaced :shocked: hub shell and maybe a different axle is all they'd need to do. But I suspect there's more money in making the same products as everyone else but offering them in anodized green.
 

snowskilz

xblue attacked piggy won
May 15, 2004
612
0
rado
Anybody know the real world numbers on these?

Weight savings: front chain ring 38 - 32 __g
Chain Guide 38 - 32 __g
Chain - 6 links __g

So if the hub with cassette is the same or less weight then its competition then you end up loosing some weight out of your drive-train.
 

SylentK

Turbo Monkey
Feb 25, 2004
2,287
854
coloRADo
Damn what a bunch of haters.

I think its pretty cool, especially for a small company like Canfield. If I were going to buy a new wheel and build it up custom, I'd prolly go with this set-up. My new DHR is super low, I need all clearance I can get.
 

IH8Rice

I'm Mr. Negative! I Fail!
Aug 2, 2008
24,524
494
Im over here now
i dont see anything wrong with it. its just another product out there for people who actually want to run it. whats wrong with having more options?
 

C4dev

Chimp
Jan 7, 2009
9
0
Cool hub, but I'm a but confused as to how it works:

The outer sprockets are fitted to the cassette body by screwing on. So how do they ensure correct alignment with the other sprockets? I would have thought that shifting from the normal cassette to the outer sprockets would be pretty rough otherwise: Hope's solution seems a lot neater in that respect.

Though if Shimano is using a similar method I'm certain they must have it dialled and I'm missing something - or is it just that alignment between sprockets is not that important?


Just answered my own question..... the third sprocket is splined to fit over the normal splines... Neat! :)
 
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