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Intense SS shock rate

buildyourown

buildyourown

Turbo Monkey
Feb 9, 2004
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Maybe there is a better place to find this, but does anyone know what the shock rate for the SS or other VPP bike looks like.

I have the original SS and I'm trying to run a Rockshox Monarch on it. It blows thru all the travel on even medium sized hits and runs 40-50% sag no matter how much pressure I add.

Thinking this thing may be falling rate and the shock it too linear. The suspension on this thing sucks in general but this is unrideable.
 
Vrock

Vrock

Linkage Design Blog
Aug 13, 2005
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If the bike is "unridable" I assume that he is going to buy a new shock...

It's a falling-rising rate like most Intense bikes. 2.6-3.1-2.3 aprox. It works very bad with an air shock and very good with a coil shock. So get a coil, even a cheap one will work ten times better than any air shock.
 
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Deano

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i had a SS a few years ago, i tried an airshock.. granted not a monarch.- but a monarch is still not designed to go on a bike like that.

But it seriously sucked, first bit of travel, superb, and there was no mid or end stroke, it blew through travel nomatter what.

Only shock that might work on it would be a Vivid air in C tune.
 
buildyourown

buildyourown

Turbo Monkey
Feb 9, 2004
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The bike came with a coil shock. It rides alright, but the bike is heavy despite a light build. It's unrideable with the air shock.
Trying to figure out if I should get one with a different tune, or if my shock is defective. I see lots of pictures of others running air shocks on these bikes.
 
Vrock

Vrock

Linkage Design Blog
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It's not about the tune. It's about the spring rate of air shocks. Get the coil and save weight anywhere else.
 
mtg

mtg

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From the Linkage web library (I can't verify the accuracy, but this is what's in their database):
 
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cableguy

cableguy

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Jun 23, 2007
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I tried a Marz air shock on mine. Felt like crap. Vivid feels pretty good on it. Fox DHX coil okay but much better than air shock.

PS It's a mini-DH bike, so you will never get it light without making serious sacrifices. If you want a light bike, get an AM bike like Ibis HD.
 
buildyourown

buildyourown

Turbo Monkey
Feb 9, 2004
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South Seattle
Vrock said:
It's not about the tune. It's about the spring rate of air shocks. Get the coil and save weight anywhere else.
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Except an air shock should, by design, have a much more progressive rate than a coil.
The tune is a concern because RS offers 3 separate tunes to match different bikes.

I think I bought the more linear one and now I'm paying for it.
I would have gone Ti spring, except the Monarch was actually the cheaper option. Mine is built as a trail bike. While the suspension sucks, the geo and fit are exactly what I want in a trail bike.

Thanks for the graph. That answers a lot.
 
DirtMcGirk

DirtMcGirk

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Feb 21, 2008
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Why would you have an air shock on that bike? I have the same bike, and I've never seen one set up with air. Its intended for a spring, not the airs.
 
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