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Turner DHR

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Jun 26, 2009
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Turner made a big splash in licensing the DW link design, and the consequent change in their line of bikes has been somewhat of a rebirth for the brand. Reinventing oneself can be a risky maneuver though, so Ryan and Joe from Bikemag decided to give it the double shred-test. Have a read for their thoughts.
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Courtesy of Bike Magazine
Tester 1: Joe Parkin

Years Riding: 28
Test Locales: Whistler & Southern California

One of the greatest benefits to being the editor of this magazine is that whenever I feel a strong desire to review a particular bike, I can add it to our testing pool and barge my way to the front of the line to ride it—which is exactly what I did with Turner’s 2011 DHR. After getting a few test runs aboard an early demo model last year at Crankworx in Whistler, I knew I, er, we had to test one further, because Turner’s fourth-generation DHR is an absolute gravity masterpiece.

What immediately sets the DHR apart from the competition is its laid-back (63-degree head angle) and low-slung (13.5-inch bottom bracket height) stance. Stable? You better believe it. Combine that with DW-Link rear suspension and you get a downhiller that’s an absolute blast. I deviated only slightly from Turner’s suggested settings on the Fox Racing Shox DHX RC4 rear shock, and feel like this bike has traction for days—right out of the box. I honestly can’t remember ever feeling so confident and quick on a big bike. The DHR did what we dream all bikes should do—it made me a better rider.

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When I swapped the Turner for another notable and similarly equipped downhiller, I knew that my infatuation with the DHR was well founded: Suddenly, sections of trail that I’d been making light work of became formidable—and the DHR’s amazing Velcro traction and confident handling was now being thoroughly enjoyed by my co-tester.
Hey, Ryan. Give me back the DHR.
—Joe Parkin


Tester 2: Ryan LaBar
Years Riding: 13
Test Locale: Southern California

My first few rides aboard the DHR were a little rough—literally. On particularly large hits the suspension felt a bit harsh. Thinking something was amiss with my rear shock settings, I swallowed my pride and opened the setup manual. Turns out I was a just a bit off the recommended settings for this bike. After recalibrating the shock, the harsh feel was replaced with smooth ground-tracking action—on hits big and small.

The most striking feature on the DHR is per- haps its extreme geometry. The Turner is outfit- ted with one of the slackest head angles and the lowest bottom brackets of any DH bike.

Along with its slack-and-low demeanor, the DHR has an ultra-low center of gravity, thanks to the low shock and linkage placements. This helped the bike scream down steep chutes and corner like a demonic go-kart. While that same low bottom bracket might lead to a few extra clipped pedals or bashed bashguards on rougher tracks, I didn’t experience either of these ills on our Southern California test courses. Think you might want a steeper (or even slacker) head angle? You can always install a Cane Creek AngleSet in the DHR’s 1.5-inch headtube and tweak away to your heart’s content. For the record, I think the stock geometry is spot on.

In addition to its affinity for steep and fast trails, the DHR was surprisingly easy and predictable to jump. It took little effort to loft gaps and trail features.

Through and through, the DHR is an absolute riot to pilot. After riding the Turner, I’d be honestly shocked if more companies don’t start slackening and lowering their DH race bikes.
—Ryan LaBar

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gemini2k

Turbo Monkey
Jul 31, 2005
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Wait is that sarcasm? T****** isn't super rough, but at the speeds you hit that trail, it gets pretty harsh. That trail is always seriously blown out.
 

HAB

Chelsea from Seattle
Apr 28, 2007
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That trail's not super rough by any stretch, but it's fast, and a lot of fun. I don't see what the problem is.
 

William42

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looks like its no longer cool to hate on that trail westcoasthucker, I'm abandoning you! you noob! thinking that trail is smooth, what a sucker.

That trail is the best trail ever
 

Squirrel

Chimp
Oct 18, 2005
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This was filmed while we were still playing with fork springs (Joe weighs a bit more than me). Rear spring was fine, but fork was indeed a tad stiff.
 

Squirrel

Chimp
Oct 18, 2005
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The video has music credits.

The band is: Red Fang

The song is: Wires

...which has a rad music video:
 

W4S

Turbo Monkey
Mar 2, 2004
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http://www.nsmb.com/4404-2011-turner-dhr-review

can anyone explain why did the reviewer bitch about harshness in this review?
I have a new DW DHR and just came off an '08 DHR that the reviewers seemed to love. I have the bike set up with the same fork and shock that I had on the previous version, a 2010 Boxxer team and a CCDB with #400 spring. The DW DHR is noticeably more forgiving on square edge hits and is not harsh, at all. I had to decrease HSC by 1 full turn, lower LSC by 1/2 turn even and increase HSR by .5 turns.

The reviewer mentions that their test bike may have had shock, fork, and set-up issues. I don't know if they did a revised review but I think that this test was compromised by the poor equipment and set up. I do think that chainslap seems to be more noticeable on the new DHR but some foam and mastic tape should negate that. I wish I had those trails in my backyard.
 
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bizutch

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Dec 11, 2001
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The bike he got was fvcked up. He should have figured it out and whoever sent him that bike should have figured it out before sending it to him.

Either way, I don't think they've done a follow up. Which is kind of lame.
Well, it is a "forum" reviewer. Not exactly top tier review credo like the "woo" man. ;)
 

xy9ine

Turbo Monkey
Mar 22, 2004
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Either way, I don't think they've done a follow up. Which is kind of lame.
last i heard (from cam): "We've been waiting to get the bike back. Fox looked at the bike and discovered that there was a problem which likely caused the bike to ride the way Tim described."
 

kidwoo

Artisanal Tweet Curator
last i heard (from cam): "We've been waiting to get the bike back. Fox looked at the bike and discovered that there was a problem which likely caused the bike to ride the way Tim described."
Turner or whoever supplied that bike better hurry up. The west coast is waxing their skis and snowboards :D

I figured they just dropped it, so that's cool they still are planning on doing a review with a 'real' bike.
 

baca262

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Aug 16, 2011
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i finally took the time to go thru that thread and came to a conclusion that if you wrote something about hating the dhr, you would be praised for objectivity and if you wrote that the reviewer is wrong you'd get accused of being a fanboy - the whole thread is a no win situation.

so we have ppl who want it to suck because it's boutique and ppl who want it to rule for the same reason... well after some analyzing in linkage, i came to a conclusion that the bike needs a as linear as possible shock (aka ccdb) yet they claim it is designed around the dhx4 which is a polar opposite in the progressiveness department which is ****ing weird if you ask me. also, the axle path seems to support plowing thru gnarl as opposed to the 951 which's axle path is worse than demo's to plow thru crap yet i haven't seen any reviews saying that the 951 is harsh and hangs up on square edge hits so it must be the shock's fault.

summary: that review depicts the dhr as a half-baked bike yet it is at least as good as any other modern dh bike if not better. given the average knowledge one usual downhiller wields (it's pathetic, really, reading thru the aforementioned thread shows it all), this half-baked review might have put quite a dent into dhr's sales for now, at least until there are more reviews by other parties.
 

kidwoo

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i finally took the time to go thru that thread and came to a conclusion that if you wrote something about hating the dhr, you would be praised for objectivity and if you wrote that the reviewer is wrong you'd get accused of being a fanboy - the whole thread is a no win situation.

so we have ppl who want it to suck because it's boutique and ppl who want it to rule for the same reason... well after some analyzing in linkage, i came to a conclusion that the bike needs a as linear as possible shock (aka ccdb) yet they claim it is designed around the dhx4 which is a polar opposite in the progressiveness department which is ****ing weird if you ask me. also, the axle path seems to support plowing thru gnarl as opposed to the 951 which's axle path is worse than demo's to plow thru crap yet i haven't seen any reviews saying that the 951 is harsh and hangs up on square edge hits so it must be the shock's fault.

summary: that review depicts the dhr as a half-baked bike yet it is at least as good as any other modern dh bike if not better. given the average knowledge one usual downhiller wields (it's pathetic, really, reading thru the aforementioned thread shows it all), this half-baked review might have put quite a dent into dhr's sales for now, at least until there are more reviews by other parties.
Please don't leave.

The collective IQ of this website just went up with that post.
 

baca262

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Aug 16, 2011
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now i must be honest and say that all i wrote here is from a purely theoretical standpoint - i've never owned a real dh bike (still a poor college kid in a country where the average monthly income barely exceeds $1k - it kinda sucks to live in croatia), i have only ridden a few but i fully intend to have one by the end of the next season. i draw my conclusions from 2-3 years of reading reviews, browsing mtb and mx forums and trying to learn everything there is about suspension - i fell in love with it when i got myself my first decent suspension fork and now i'm seriously considering suspension tuning career.

i stumbled across this site googling for some shimstack tuning advice and ran into that 888 evo tuning thread and man, did i like what i saw (coming from pinkbike :rolleyes:)! i found ridemonkey to be one of the best mtb forums around the interwebz, there's much more stuff for me to learn so i'm here to stay :thumb:
 

NoUseForAName

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Mar 26, 2008
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this half-baked review might have put quite a dent into dhr's sales for now, at least until there are more reviews by other parties.
Actually the Turner dist apparently loved the review and got a ton of sales from it!

One less than enthusiastic review of a bike that almost everyone (including Fox) now believes was broken sent people looking for other reviews. Cue the 'fanboi' reviews of the general awesomeness of the Turner and cue the kaching of the cash register.
 

Owennn

Monkey
Mar 10, 2009
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Actually the Turner dist apparently loved the review and got a ton of sales from it!
If only Australia had a proper distributor rather than the lying sack of crap Turner choose to do business with over here, they would have even more sales.
 

jrjess

Chimp
Jan 13, 2009
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Been riding my DHR for the past 6 months and it is definitely the best DHR yet from Turner. Only thing to upgrade is maybe an air shock or try using a CCDB. I already installed an angle set and slacken it another 1.5 deg on the HA. Its more stable on the steep trails in Penang, Malaysia. Definitely recommend this DH Racing Machine to all privateers out there. With excellent customer service, you can't ask for more except when is David planning to make a carbon fibre DHR!!!!
 

jrjess

Chimp
Jan 13, 2009
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Been riding my DHR for the past 6 months and it is definitely the best DHR yet from Turner. Only thing to upgrade is maybe an air shock or try using a CCDB. I already installed an angle set and slacken it another 1.5 deg on the HA. Its more stable on the steep trails in Penang, Malaysia. Definitely recommend this DH Racing Machine to all privateers out there. With excellent customer service, you can't ask for more except when is David planning to make a carbon fibre DHR!!!!
 

jrjess

Chimp
Jan 13, 2009
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I have post a link to my Facebook pictures. You have a look at my bike with the angle set on set to 61.5 deg HA. Damn stable and once you get used to riding with it, you don't want to change it anymore!!!
 

Sandwich

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i finally took the time to go thru that thread and came to a conclusion that if you wrote something about hating the dhr, you would be praised for objectivity and if you wrote that the reviewer is wrong you'd get accused of being a fanboy - the whole thread is a no win situation.
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