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TheMontashu

Pourly Tatteued Jeu
Mar 15, 2004
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What can be considered art is subjective I’d rather not subsidize any of it at the expense of other vital programs.
I finally understand why, you're lazy as fawk, and selfish too boot. You have the time to sit on here all day during the week and troll. Every time I take a break from my math homework I seem to see more retardation from you.

Get on it old man, I work 35 hours a week so I can pay for my full time class load (not a single dollar from another person or gov agency either, ALL my money, handouts come when I transfer) I had my first day off in 3 weeks, and some how through the 4 hours a night of sleep found time to clean my room, overhaul 2 bikes, install a stereo and a new turbo in my truck (sounds sick with the 5 feet of exhaust pipe BTW)
 

Beef Supreme

Turbo Monkey
Oct 29, 2010
1,434
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Hiding from the stupid
You are exposing yourself as a left wing sycophant. You have an 825 credit rating here.
$tinkle, where ya been? Your buddy Kitty has been getting hammered trying to pick up your slack. Even Mooshoo has been having his way with him.

You can accuse me of a lot of things but being a sycophant is not one of them. I'm terrible at towing the party line. I like guns, support the death penalty and am quick to criticize the Dems. I'm glad to hear my RM credit rating matches my real life one. Personal responsibility is actually one of my values and not just a political talking point.
 

syadasti

i heart mac
Apr 15, 2002
12,690
290
VT
i read the part where he was a volunteer.
He maybe have been a volunteer but he was still fired from his official capacity on the campaign and he was a tea party supporter. HK point was wrong, the Tea Party and other right-wing nuts have done far worse.


Photo: Tim Profitt of Paris, Ky., is joined by other demonstrators as he attends a rally in support of Republican Rand Paul in Lexington, Ky., on March 2. Credit: Associated Press
LEXINGTON, Ky. -- A former campaign worker for U.S. Sen. Rand Paul has agreed to serve probation and pay medical expenses in an assault on a liberal activist during the 2010 election.

Assistant Fayette County Attorney Jackie Alexander says 53-year-old Tim Profitt agreed to an Alford plea on Monday. It means he acknowledged that prosecutors had enough evidence to convict him in the assault but didn't admit guilt.

Video showed 23-year-old Lauren Valle being pulled down, her face pinned to the concrete and then stepped on. Valle was with the group MoveOn.org. It happened on Oct. 25 in Lexington outside the studio where the Republican Paul and Democrat Jack Conway debated.

Profitt will spend a year on unsupervised probation and agreed to pay $600 to cover Valle's medical bills.

Profitt's attorney Michael Dean confirmed the plea but had no further comment.
But wait, there's more...

Alaska Senate candidate Joe Miller hires a group tied to a paramilitary militia to do security for him, and his paratroopers assault and handcuff a citizen journalist just trying to get a question answered.

a bullet is shot through Rep. Grijalva's campaign office window, and obscene threats are delivered to his ofc as well.

Rep. Perriello's gas line to his house was cut.

Republican congressional candidate Allen West using a motorcycle gang known for violent criminal activity for security, and then gang members actually harassed and bullied a Democratic staffer trying to videotape a public event.

Vandalism and assassination threats occur at offices of Congressional members during the health care fight.

a doctor who performs abortions in KS is brutally murdered while coming out of his church on a Sunday morning.

a guard at the Holocaust Museum is murdered by an anti-Semitic racist stoked by listening to Limbaugh and Beck.

a lunatic also stirred up by Glenn Beck shows about the Tides Foundation is stopped on his way to murder people at the Tides office in San Francisco.


These are just the actual acts of violence. In the meantime, we have people coming to town hall meetings and Presidential rallies with assault weapons, Republican Senate candidates talking openly of having to use "Second Amendment means" in case regular politics doesn't work, Republican Governors (both Rick Perry and Sarah Palin) meeting with secessionist groups with ties to racist leaders. Rand Paul's wimpy statement about civility is only the latest in Republicans' utter unwillingness to clearly condemn violent acts or rhetoric on the part of way too many of their supporters.

The sad thing is that all this violent talk and action, along with the cowardly acceptance of it by the political party benefiting, is a terrible reliving of American history too many times over. When lynchings and church bombings and the brutal murders and beatings of civil rights activists were going on in the South during the civil rights movement era, politicians in the South rarely said a word to condemn or even restrain their citizens. When an abolitionist Senator, Charles Sumner, was caned by a Senator Preston Brooks from South Carolina, he was cheered and congratulated throughout the South. When the staff at abortion clinics have been murdered several times over the years, "pro-life" politicians have fallen strangely silent way too often.

If Republican politicians don't strongly condemn the thuggery of way too many of their followers, they share in the blame. When they ratchet up their own rhetoric, and talk about second amendment solutions and the President being friends with terrorists, they share in the blame. Democracy is premised on us being able to freely and vigorously debate the issues, and on those who win elections governing the way they believe, but our entire democracy is at risk if violence becomes just another standard operating procedure and isn't swiftly and strongly condemned. Republicans who welcome paramilitary militia members and people with ties to violent racist organizations do so at not only their own peril, but our entire way of government.
 
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$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
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6
Bush wrote a trillion dollar blank check,
act II
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/f67/finally-someone-said-241485/index2/#post3620714
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/f67/people-vs-goldman-sachs-242241/#post3634007
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/f67/finally-someone-said-241485/index2/#post3625277
a humorous peek of the goofballs of #occupywallstreet

dude held his own, i thought

And here is the logical disconnect. The last republican you guys picked increased the government size more than any other president ever.
and yours is funding it [not that i mind - pesqueeb you may stfu now]
those "job creators" haven't been creating jobs here. Thanks to the bush tax cuts, they use those intensives and ship the jobs overseas.
joining the "bush's fault" drumming circle?

"Soon after I took office, I set a goal of having one million electric vehicles on our roads by 2015. We've created incentives for American companies to develop these vehicles, and for Americans who want them to buy them."--Barack Obama, March 30
"The German government wants to see one million electric cars on the nation's roads by 2020. Researchers have been assessing if that is at all possible and have found the best government policy may be to do nothing."--Deutsche Welle website, Oct. 20


file under: "All the Choices We've Made Have Been the Right Ones"
 

$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
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6
Education? Where did you go to school from K-12? You already said that you went to a state college. All of these are funded by the Dept of Ed.
reminds me of this:
Here's a puzzle: Try to figure out what we're describing.

It costs a lot of money, so much that most people have to go into debt to buy it. It has considerable intrinsic value, but it is also understood to be an investment. And it is a status symbol--indeed, almost a necessary condition for achieving middle-class status.

Its acquisition by as wide a swath of the population is widely seen as a social good. Thus the government heavily subsidizes it through tax incentives and other means. That, however, creates an artificial demand that drives prices up and, in a vicious circle, spurs demands for more subsidies. Efforts to make it more easily acquired for minorities, who by objective standards tend to be less qualified, compound the problem.

In the current economy, it has turned out to be considerably less valuable than promised. As a result, many Americans are under water, with debts that they will not be able to pay off easily.

What is it? A house, but that's the obvious answer. We're thinking of a college education. The similarities between the housing bubble and the higher-ed bubble are remarkable, aren't they?


"The amount of student loans taken out last year crossed the $100 billion mark for the first time and total loans outstanding will exceed $1 trillion for the first time this year," USA Today reports. We'd seen that $1 trillion figure before--last Saturday, at New York's Zuccotti Park, where a 23-year-old Occupy Wall Street protester named Taylor was carrying a sign that read "Where's our bailout? $1 trillion in student loans outstanding."

You can see why young people like Taylor would feel aggrieved. Growing up, they were told they needed a college education as a ticket to a productive life. Now they find themselves deeply in debt, their employment prospects limited in the Obama economy. So they're lashing out at the banks that hold their debt and at the corporations that have made a college degree into a license to hunt for a job.​


I've long thought that Piss Christ was hauntingly beautiful. The visual is much more stunning than the written description.
as is Adhan?
 

$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
14,591
6
Where have you been, and don't tell me you've been busy with work.
sure as **** ain't been riding :rant:
but yes, i've been laying sideways in the gubment trough, & tonight i'm hiding out the basement while the womenfolk prattle on about g-spots & other sundry mythical creatures
$tinkle, where ya been? Your buddy Kitty has been getting hammered trying to pick up your slack.
say what you want; he's got a sweet whip (props to kranked)

but his rep is in the crapper; you niggas ran at him haaaaaaard
You can accuse me of a lot of things but being a sycophant is not one of them. I'm terrible at towing the party line. I like guns, support the death penalty and am quick to criticize the Dems. I'm glad to hear my RM credit rating matches my real life one. Personal responsibility is actually one of my values and not just a political talking point.
w3rd.
 

I.van

Monkey
Apr 15, 2007
188
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Australia
These people are idiots, not for protesting, but for not leaving when they were directed to by police yesterday. They made their point, and could have moved elsewhere, but decided to escalate this into a situation where the police were forced to act. I would've hated to be a cop turning up to work in Melbourne yesterday.

I understand the sentiment of the protest, but Australia has a fairly good distribution of wealth compared to some country's, and a high standard of living. What were they hoping to achieve by disobeying the police?
 
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daisycutter

Turbo Monkey
Apr 8, 2006
1,651
124
New York City
You can see why young people like Taylor would feel aggrieved. Growing up, they were told they needed a college education as a ticket to a productive life. Now they find themselves deeply in debt, their employment prospects limited in the Obama economy. So they're lashing out at the banks that hold their debt and at the corporations that have made a college degree into a license to hunt for a job.



People forget that when Obama came on the Bush administration had just about turned out the lights on the world economy. I have not agreed with everything Obama has done but don't blame him for the table the Bush administration set.
 

$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
14,591
6
People forget that when Obama came on the Bush administration had just about turned out the lights on the world economy. I have not agreed with everything Obama has done but don't blame him for the table the Bush administration set.
 

dante

Unabomber
Feb 13, 2004
8,807
9
looking for classic NE singletrack
People forget that when Obama came on the Bush administration had just about turned out the lights on the world economy. I have not agreed with everything Obama has done but don't blame him for the table the Bush administration set.
Apparently 51% of Americans haven't forgotten...


Fifty-one percent say George W. Bush deserves “almost all,” or “a lot but not all” of the blame, while 31 percent said the same of Obama.

On a similar note, 44 percent of those polled said that “almost all” or “a lot but not all” of the blame should be put on the shoulders of congressional Republicans, while 36 percent responded that way about congressional Democrats.
 

Andyman_1970

Turbo Monkey
Apr 4, 2003
3,105
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The Natural State
Andyman, your certainly more qualified to critique this than any of the other heathens or apostates (myself) here. Comments/rebuttal?
That’s pretty much hitting the nail on the HEAD!!!

Some comments / insights. Galilee, where Jesus came from, was one of the poorest regions of Israel in the first century. They were also very serious about their adherence to the Torah, most Pharisee’s came from that region (I argue Jesus was from the Pharisee sect but that’s another rabbit for another day). They were relentlessly taxed, which is why tax collectors were so hated, which is why the story of Jesus eating with someone so hated like Zacheues would have been shocking in that day.

Now when Caesar would come to a town he would throw bread to the crowd that would gather, a way to declare that Caesar is the one who feeds you and takes care of your needs. So when Jesus feeds the 5000 it’s a way of Jesus giving Caesar the finger if you will. Caesar doesn’t take care of you God does. Regardless of if you believe the miracle or not, the message to those early followers of Jesus was the same.

Not only were the Roman’s oppressive but the Jews that were “in bed” with them just a corrupt. The Temple officials were the 1%. When a Jew in those days wanted to worship at the Temple, or wanted to repent (teshuvah) they had to perform a mikvah, a ritual immersion (what morphed into the Christian baptism). It cost money to use the Temple mikvah pools, so when John the Baptist is at the dirty nasty Jordan river declaring that you can repent right there, he’s giving the whole Temple system the bird.

Jesus as one point refers to Herod as a “fox”, an insult in those days. The fox was considered a sneaky animal, lacking honor, compared to say a lion. When you read the Gospels in that light, it’s easy to understand why Jesus was arrested and killed, He spent a good amount of time trash talking the establishment.

This even extended back to the prophets in the Hebrew Scriptures, Isaiah 65:17 no longer will someone else live in your house and eat your crops (paraphrase).

If you ever get the chance, or are interested, read the book “Jesus wants to save Christians” by Rob Bell and Don Golden(?). They make LOTS of allusions to the fact that the US is the modern equivalent of the Roman empire………

Sorry to ramble and for the “Sunday School Lesson” but yeah that was dead on!!!
 

Hello Kitty

Monkey
Nov 25, 2004
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Houston
The Tenth Commandment reads:

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's. (Exodus 20:17)
 

Andyman_1970

Turbo Monkey
Apr 4, 2003
3,105
5
The Natural State
The Tenth Commandment reads:

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's. (Exodus 20:17)
Yep, you're correct. Keep in mind that the 10 commandments are only 10 out of 613 laws that God gave the Jews. He also gave them rules to prevent the rich from taking advantage of the poor.
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
21,521
7,072
Colorado
The Tenth Commandment reads:

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's. (Exodus 20:17)
You just engaged the wrong person. Andy - Go to town.
 

Andyman_1970

Turbo Monkey
Apr 4, 2003
3,105
5
The Natural State
The Tenth Commandment reads:

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's. (Exodus 20:17)
How about we also apply that little verse you plucked to corporate and poltical greed as well........

Edit: the more I marinate on this the more that comes to mind. Keep in mind that this command was given to the Jews after they had been slaves for 400 years. They were traveling to the "promised land", which was overflowing with natural resources. The point of the command is not to have anything, the point of the command is essentially don't forget where you came from and that God provides your needs. The Jewish theologian Abraham Joshua Heschel said "to be a Jew is to remember", many of the commands in the Torah reflect that.........essentially "don't be a d!ck, it wasn't too long ago you were a slave and didn't have sh!t."
 
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ridiculous

Turbo Monkey
Jan 18, 2005
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MD / NoVA
Dear Investor:

Up until now, Goldman Sachs has been silent on the subject of the protest movement known as Occupy Wall Street. That does not mean, however, that it has not been very much on our minds. As thousands have gathered in Lower Manhattan, passionately expressing their deep discontent with the status quo, we have taken note of these protests. And we have asked ourselves this question:

How can we make money off them?

The answer is the newly launched Goldman Sachs Global Rage Fund, whose investment objective is to monetize the Occupy Wall Street protests as they spread around the world. At Goldman, we recognize that the capitalist system as we know it is circling the drain – but there’s plenty of money to be made on the way down.

The Rage Fund will seek out opportunities to invest in products that are poised to benefit from the spreading protests, from police batons and barricades to stun guns and forehead bandages. Furthermore, as clashes between police and protesters turn ever more violent, we are making significant bets on companies that manufacture replacements for broken windows and overturned cars, as well as the raw materials necessary for the construction and incineration of effigies.

It would be tempting, at a time like this, to say “Let them eat cake.” But at Goldman, we are actively seeking to corner the market in cake futures. We project that through our aggressive market manipulation, the price of a piece of cake will quadruple by the end of 2011.

Please contact your Goldman representative for a full prospectus. As the world descends into a Darwinian free-for-all, the Goldman Sachs Rage Fund is a great way to tell the protesters, “Occupy this.” We haven’t felt so good about something we’ve sold since our souls.

Sincerely,

Lloyd Blankfein

Chairman, Goldman Sachs
:rofl:
 

TheMontashu

Pourly Tatteued Jeu
Mar 15, 2004
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I'm homeless
Yep, you're correct. Keep in mind that the 10 commandments are only 10 out of 613 laws that God gave the Jews. He also gave them rules to prevent the rich from taking advantage of the poor.
Only about half are relevant today, as many have to do with practices involving the temple (as in THE temple) sacrifices and pilgrimages and things of that nature
 

mandown

Poopdeck Repost
Jun 1, 2004
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Getting stoned, old-school:

Deuteronomy 21:18-21
King James Version (KJV)
*18If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

*19Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

*20And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

*21And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
 

Andyman_1970

Turbo Monkey
Apr 4, 2003
3,105
5
The Natural State
My point was not that there aren’t parts of the Torah that are barbaric. Keep in mind Jesus as a Rabbi gives His interpretation about stoning with the story about when the Pharisee’s and Elders want to stone the one lady for fooling around.

My point was is that there are massive areas in both the Hebrew Scriptures and the Apostolic Text that talk about things like the rich not taking advantage of the poor, various commands to prevent the poor from getting poorer, heck the tithe was originally for the Levites (who couldn’t own land) and those who were poor and disadvantaged.

I’m not trying to convince anyone to come to faith in God / Jesus, but I do want people to understand one of the overarching stories of the Bible involves things like rich folks taking advantage of those who are disadvantaged. Like I mentioned earlier, regardless of if you believe the story of Jesus feeding 5000, or that it’s actually true was not my point. That story was in there for a reason, to show that this promised Messiah was giving Caesar/the Man the bird by such actions.
 

jonKranked

Detective Dookie
Nov 10, 2005
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Andy, i'm pretty sure it was you who stated that jesus had no worse contempt for those who used religion to gain power or money or something like that.
 

jimmydean

The Official Meat of Ridemonkey
Sep 10, 2001
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I’m not trying to convince anyone to come to faith in God / Jesus, but I do want people to understand one of the overarching stories of the Bible involves things like rich folks taking advantage of those who are disadvantaged. Like I mentioned earlier, regardless of if you believe the story of Jesus feeding 5000, or that it’s actually true was not my point. That story was in there for a reason, to show that this promised Messiah was giving Caesar/the Man the bird by such actions.
And this is why I respect and appreciate your posts. You are very well versed in your faith and you represent it better than many others I know. Rather than twist things like the bible to fit your needs, you use it as a tool to guide your faith. You are also quick to point out when others try to twist it for themselves.

I wish I could rep you more often.
 

BIGHITR

WINNING!
Nov 14, 2007
1,084
0
Maryland, east coast.
The unemployed need something to do with their time. Why not a sit in? Hey man.., I hear there's something going on over at Hate Ashbury... we should go over there, can you dig that man? :rolleyes:
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
21,521
7,072
Colorado
The unemployed need something to do with their time. Why not a sit in? Hey man.., I hear there's something going on over at Hate Ashbury... we should go over there, can you dig that man? :rolleyes:
Haight, you bumbling fool.