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N8 v2.0

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
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The Cleft of Venus
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stosh

stosh

Darth Bailer
Jul 20, 2001
22,238
393
NY
N8 v2.0 said:
What's your pay band now (aside from $0 apparently)?

http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/305714300
http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/2344800
http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/305772300
http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/305535500
http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/2344775

I like to use http://www.americajobs.com to search for gov jobs since USAJOBS was made a lot worse recently..
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I'm right by West Point, I should look there.
 
VT Mtbkr

VT Mtbkr

Monkey
Oct 3, 2003
403
0
Richmond, Virginia
Good Luck! This is my 4th company in 4 years and 6th company since graduating in 1998. I would agree that if you still have the job then stay put! I'm also an architect and after my layoff in March last year I thought about changing careers but after 3 months I found a job in a crappy firm and left after 11 months to join the firm I'm with now. Hoping to stay here for awhile but who knows.

My husband is in the construction business too (PM for a site construction co.) and just changed jobs after the company he'd been with for 11 years shut down his office and expected him to move to the main office 2.5 hours away.

After thinking about a career change what I found was that my skill set and knowledge only seemed to transfer to other construction related fields which were all doing poorly!
 
stosh

stosh

Darth Bailer
Jul 20, 2001
22,238
393
NY
VT Mtbkr said:
Good Luck! This is my 4th company in 4 years and 6th company since graduating in 1998. I would agree that if you still have the job then stay put! I'm also an architect and after my layoff in March last year I thought about changing careers but after 3 months I found a job in a crappy firm and left after 11 months to join the firm I'm with now. Hoping to stay here for awhile but who knows.

My husband is in the construction business too (PM for a site construction co.) and just changed jobs after the company he'd been with for 11 years shut down his office and expected him to move to the main office 2.5 hours away.

After thinking about a career change what I found was that my skill set and knowledge only seemed to transfer to other construction related fields which were all doing poorly!
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Yeah that's what I'm finding but the thing is all the big construction firms we've been working with are doing well, paying out bonuses, promotions etc......
That sucks about your husband losing his job after 11yrs. I've been here 8yrs.
 
TreeSaw

TreeSaw

Mama Monkey
Oct 30, 2003
17,670
1,855
Dancin' over rocks n' roots!
johnbryanpeters said:
Switching professions under your circumstances would be a fool's game. You have managed to hang on during a really bad down cycle, which leaves you well positioned on the inevitable upswing. Stick with it.
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I agree with JBP. A few years back, I took a big paycut (almost $15k on paper but in reality, my commuting costs were cut drastically as was child care, etc. so it was really less than $6k) but my quality of life is much better and though my job here isn't the most secure with all of the cuts and the new 2% tax cap, I
am happy to have a job and we're definitely able to make ends meet . I'd keep your eyes open and resume up to date. Take whatever training opportunities arisse to keep yourself marketable, but "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" would be my motto as well.
 
Jim Mac

Jim Mac

MAKE ENDURO GREAT AGAIN
May 21, 2004
6,352
282
the middle east of NY
If you can afford it, go back to school to boost or diversify your skills. I'm wrapping up my 'MBA lite' (actually MS in Org Management - which at this college is an MBA minus the stats classes). If nothing else, it will help me to potentially retain my job with impending cuts (Medicaid in NYS).
 
jdcamb

jdcamb

Tool Time!
Feb 17, 2002
19,831
8,423
Nowhere Man!
I got paid to work on bikes today. It was nice. I'm really good at it. I enjoy it. I just wish it paid enough to live off of. I don't mind that bike biz is now the phone biz. I worked 5 hours and spent 2 of them on the phone chasing parts and favors. I want to work for Cane Creek. Those folks are so happy to serve you. Sram not so much....
 
Leppah

Leppah

Turbo Monkey
Mar 12, 2008
2,294
3
Utar
I landed a job with TDAmeritrade 9 months ago as their logistics specialist. I ended up hearing that they were goin to be goin through some "restructuring" so I applied for something to fall back on just in case I got let go. I ended up landing a job workin for ATK (all divisions) as one of their production control support guys. It's pretty much like an inventory specialist position. I don't get paid much, but i'm pretty stoked. The drive to TDAmeritrade was 45 minutes one way. ATK is less than 3 minutes from home. I know they've had a lot of layoffs, but then again, it seems like a lot of places are having them. THey said that if i was working for one specific side of ATK, then it would be an issue. I'm hoping they're right.
 
motomike

motomike

Turbo Monkey
Jan 19, 2005
4,584
0
North Carolina
I graduated 1.5 years ago with a degree in Geography and a concentration in GIS, did an internship building trails then started working with one of the top trailbuilding companies in the country. Now I do a mix of work for them as well as independent contract work under my own name. It can be done! Sometimes you just have to invent your own job...
 
stosh

stosh

Darth Bailer
Jul 20, 2001
22,238
393
NY
I'm going to apply for the teaching position at the local Votech center tonight. The position just became available.
 
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?????

Turbo Monkey
Jun 20, 2005
1,678
2
San Francisco
Did you leave the old firm, or just looking to do this on the side? I moved to Germany last February and got a job at a cool office here, but it pays.... well, I am a slave. A lot of my friends that I graduated high school with are buying houses, new cars, having babies, and everyone that I meet in Germany that's in their mid-20's still live with roommates in a cheap flat.
 
DaveW

DaveW

Space Monkey
Jul 2, 2001
11,197
2,723
The bunker at parliament
Really?
When I was looking at work in Baden-Württemberg I was surprised at how well payed jobs were.
Lower cost of living and on average 30-40% more pay than here in NZ.
Still a but gutted I didn't quite qualify for German residency.
 
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?????

Turbo Monkey
Jun 20, 2005
1,678
2
San Francisco
I'm living in Stuttgart (BW). It may just depend on what kind of job you are looking for. The house that I am designing here is a solid 5 million Euros and I see more exotic cars per day in this city than I did for the first 25 years of my life, but I can almost guarantee that none of those belong to any architects or designers... well, except for my boss. He comes by Porsche, all of us employees come by bike.
 
stosh

stosh

Darth Bailer
Jul 20, 2001
22,238
393
NY
????? said:
Did you leave the old firm, or just looking to do this on the side? I moved to Germany last February and got a job at a cool office here, but it pays.... well, I am a slave. A lot of my friends that I graduated high school with are buying houses, new cars, having babies, and everyone that I meet in Germany that's in their mid-20's still live with roommates in a cheap flat.
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I'm still here actually. I love it here but my pay has been froze for 4 years and on a week to week basis I'm not sure if my paychecks will be on time or paid at all. Take today for instance, I didn't get paid yesterday my usual auto-deposit pay day and I was told at the end of the day after 3 bills were withdrawn that I would be getting a paper check at some point today.
 
JohnE

JohnE

filthy rascist
May 13, 2005
13,440
1,965
Front Range, dude...
????? said:
I'm living in Stuttgart (BW). It may just depend on what kind of job you are looking for. The house that I am designing here is a solid 5 million Euros and I see more exotic cars per day in this city than I did for the first 25 years of my life, but I can almost guarantee that none of those belong to any architects or designers... well, except for my boss. He comes by Porsche, all of us employees come by bike.
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Also in Stuttgart...the cost of living here is nuckin futs, and the $$ is huge. My neighbors all have Porsches and Mercedes, even a Lambo. I get mean mugged when I drive by in my Subaru all the time (...then I crank up some old Clash to make them uncomfortable.).

I will be on the hunt for a cool job in 2 years, 10 months and 7 days. Not that I am counting...
Going to find something almost completely opposite of what I have been doing for the past 20 years.
?????? we still gota hook up sometime. I gotta find a free day somewhere, family and job keep me hopping. Been kinda crazy the past week.
 
Jim Mac

Jim Mac

MAKE ENDURO GREAT AGAIN
May 21, 2004
6,352
282
the middle east of NY
What do you have to lose? Your current job sounds like a slow death.

One tip: find out about your new field/job, figure out the 'soft skills' needed and practice some behavioral interviewing techniques (ie, "Tell me about how you in your past job how you handled conflict management/resolution with other employees").
 
stosh

stosh

Darth Bailer
Jul 20, 2001
22,238
393
NY
Jim Mac said:
What do you have to lose? Your current job sounds like a slow death.

One tip: find out about your new field/job, figure out the 'soft skills' needed and practice some behavioral interviewing techniques (ie, "Tell me about how you in your past job how you handled conflict management/resolution with other employees").
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Gottcha, I'll have to go through some of them in the next 2 days.
 
stosh

stosh

Darth Bailer
Jul 20, 2001
22,238
393
NY
Aced the interview.

Pay is the sticking issue right now. Waiting for an offer.
 
stosh

stosh

Darth Bailer
Jul 20, 2001
22,238
393
NY
Jim Mac said:
How are the bene's?
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Killer!
My problem right now is we're being run dry. My wife is a teacher so our bene's are good but we aren't making enough $.
My single main primary only reason for looking for another job right now is for more green. My pay dropped 4 yrs ago, the business I work for stopped contributing to retirement, no bonuses, no OT etc... etc... now I have one kid in school, one in daycare, so my costs obviously keep going up.

I love my job but they've been having trouble paying on time. Also there are a number of reason I don't see myself getting a raise for at least a year and maybe even longer. So.... I'm trying to make a lateral pay move right now knowing that I'll be getting a raise quickly with my certification and better bene's and working less time.
 
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?????

Turbo Monkey
Jun 20, 2005
1,678
2
San Francisco
Is the firm doing any great design work, or could you be doing the same copy-paste buildings at any other firm? Just curious what your reasons for liking it enough to stay are.
 
stosh

stosh

Darth Bailer
Jul 20, 2001
22,238
393
NY
????? said:
Is the firm doing any great design work, or could you be doing the same copy-paste buildings at any other firm? Just curious what your reasons for liking it enough to stay are.
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We do a little bit of everything. I'm a field guy so I'm managing the construction on a lot of jobs and thats what I enjoy.
 
stosh

stosh

Darth Bailer
Jul 20, 2001
22,238
393
NY
So..... job's been better. After 5yrs I finally got a raise yesterday. Job's been better thank god patience paid off.
 
stosh

stosh

Darth Bailer
Jul 20, 2001
22,238
393
NY
SkaredShtles said:
5 YEARS?!?

You have the patience of a saint, apparently.
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I do somewhat. I really love what I do and where I work. They gave me a company car for work and personal use, put mine and my wife's cellphone on the company plan, done lots to help us get by while the company has been struggling as well.

The raise was around 35%
 
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