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Stumpy Carbon opinions?

descente

descente

Monkey
Jul 30, 2010
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Sandy Eggo
no, i'm not really interested because it won bike of the year, and i actually don't really want the evo either (I do have a 150mm Revelation already waiting to go on a bike...) but we've had some 2011 models in the shop for a while now, and they really caught my eye especially when i saw the price tag.
decent bike for a DH'er looking for a xc-trail bike?

curious what people have for feedback on the carbon version, is it as tough as say my V10C or is it niner scary thin?
are the Aluminum chain stays gonna snap like a twig when i repeatedly land sideways?

i'm not really sold on the BB30 but i guess i could live with it...any real chain guide options yet for a frame that only has a BB30 with no ISCG tabs?

got no response in the AM forum, but i guess no body reads that forum anyways...
 
chillindrdude

chillindrdude

Turbo Monkey
Jan 18, 2002
1,852
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Northern VA, a peckerwood with too many guns
my comment is on ride characteristics, not the carbon. i rode a 2010 stumpy, the fsr rear end is the same as the 2011s.

if you're just interested in descending, the bike is pretty good. the fsr suspension is fairly supple and ramps up nicely at the end with no harsh bottom-out. my gripe was that running 25% sag, the mid-stroke was kinda wallowy and the bike would bob noticeably on up-hill climbs or hammering in the flats on terrain other than smooth. pro-pedal fixed it well, but of course, ride quality suffered. pivots and hardware are top notched, even after a season of riding, there was no slop whatsoever.
 
descente

descente

Monkey
Jul 30, 2010
430
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Sandy Eggo
going by saddle time, the bike will probably spend at least as much time climbing as it will descending. i've got a V10C for pushbiking/shuttles/lifts.

interesting observation about the wallowy mid stroke. i feel like this is something a lot of modern trail bikes suffer from (i won't name names), in an effort to achieve supple performance through the 75% of travel where 90% of riders spend their time. for more aggressive riders (ie downhillers crossing over into pedal land) a lot of trail bikes seem wallowy. i did notice it pedaling around our parking lot and doing a couple little street jumps.

i wonder if you could decrease the air volume in the shock with one of those special spacers fox sells (as the rear shock is essentially an RP2 with a goofy yoke and broken dial) to make it ramp up quicker.
i would expect the build quality to be top notch, special ed is doing really good stuff these days.

i see you have a V10C, do you find yourself to prefer the way VPP pedals over the way FSR pedals?
 
chillindrdude

chillindrdude

Turbo Monkey
Jan 18, 2002
1,852
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Northern VA, a peckerwood with too many guns
comparing the v10c to the 2011 demo i had, i honestly can't tell much difference. maybe a slight nod to the vpp. whereas the demo was poppy and playful, the v10c just eats up anything you throw at it.

as far as trail bike applications, i have only experience with fsr and single pivot plus/minus linkage bikes.
 
DaveBethea

DaveBethea

Monkey
Jul 22, 2009
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Daytona Beach,FL
I've been riding a carbon s-works Enduro for the last two years and it has held up really well. It's hit a few trees and some rocks and no promblems. Try out an Enduro if you have one at the shop, they climp very nice. A little on the heavyer (28-32lbs) side, but an awesome bike!
 
descente

descente

Monkey
Jul 30, 2010
430
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Sandy Eggo
The enduro is a really nice bike, my friend helped design and proto it and I was impressed the moment I saw it. For 80% of the riding around me, even a stumpy is overkill and an enduro more so. I just refuse to buy a niner hard tail like everyone else
 
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roel_koel

Monkey
Mar 26, 2003
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London,England
definitely check out the Fox volume reduction kit for the Float shocks

it makes a massive difference to the midstroke of the Float shock, and comes with 3 volume sizes so you can experiment and find the 100% right setup for your needs

its a really easy install that takes less than 10 minutes
 
descente

descente

Monkey
Jul 30, 2010
430
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Sandy Eggo
Good feedback on the fox kit thanks.

Is there any way to adapt a BB30 to iscg 05? If i use say a hollow tech 2 press in adapter could I replace one of the bb spacers with a chain guide? I have to have the ability to at least run a roller guide, I won't deal with dropping a chain on any bike what so ever

Not interested in a cannondale.
 
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EVIL JN

Monkey
Jul 24, 2009
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Would only a upper guide be sufficient? If so there are upper guides that attach like normal front derailleurs.

I dont think repalcing a spacer would be a good idea since those bbs are not sopposed to be torqued down as hard as a normal threaded interface. The adapters are thermoplastic and the bb cups should only be torqued a bit harder than by hand, the force of the press fit itself could probably hold a non taco setup though. But the bb to adapter interface i am pretty sure wouldnt.
 
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