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Sick deal right there! Hopefully we'll get more of these deals in the future. More afordable bikes means more people means more popularity means more bikeparks.

A big :thumb: fot these companys!
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
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Sick deal right there! Hopefully we'll get more of these deals in the future. More afordable bikes means more people means more popularity means more bikeparks.

A big :thumb: fot these companys!
Im suprised that it happened with morewood since from what i hear the price for reselers was white high and it seems more like a local action
 

frango

Turbo Monkey
Jun 13, 2007
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I guess he's "on" Unit and YT, so, as this bike comes with CCDB on the back, he's currently on it.
 

tabletop84

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Nov 12, 2011
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Two of my buddys ordered them too. We will definitely see alot of these bikes next year I think. At least in Europe.
around 500 must have been sold. Over at mtb-news earliest order number is 770x in 10.11 afternoon going to 820x on 11.11 around midday.
 

miuan

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Jan 12, 2007
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This is ridiculous. Why all the envy.
People had been supporting other brands for years, waiting equally as long for frames that were almost as expensive as the YT complete. Same goes for Shimano and Sram preorders. Preordering the bikes in this quantity creates opportunity to save money for both customers and bike company. I applaud to this approach and wish the owners will enjoy their purchase. I also wish more companies start working like this, instead of the stupid MSRP - SALE - MSRP - SALE cycle.
 
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norbar

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Jun 7, 2007
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This is ridiculous. Why all the envy.
People had been supporting other brands for years, waiting equally as long for frames that were almost as expensive as the YT complete. Same goes for Shimano and Sram preorders. Preordering the bikes in this quantity creates opportunity to save money for both customers and bike company. I applaud to this approach and wish the owners will enjoy their purchase. I also wish more companies start working like this, instead of the stupid MSRP - SALE - MSRP - SALE cycle.
I agree. Even though I don't like their frames their model is a good one. It may not be for everybody but it works and is mutualy beneficial. Though I may be a bit biased since I waited 14 months for my mk2 legend.
 

IH8Rice

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This is ridiculous. Why all the envy.
People had been supporting other brands for years, waiting equally as long for frames that were almost as expensive as the YT complete. Same goes for Shimano and Sram preorders. Preordering the bikes in this quantity creates opportunity to save money for both customers and bike company. I applaud to this approach and wish the owners will enjoy their purchase. I also wish more companies start working like this, instead of the stupid MSRP - SALE - MSRP - SALE cycle.
no other manufacturer charges you well before the product actually ships (except Nemesis Project.) especially if the product probably isnt even made.
i also cant think of any mfg changes the price up and down like you said either. no one would buy their product if a company was stupid enough to do that.


wtf? That is more than one year!
are you sure?? :rolleyes:
 

tabletop84

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no other manufacturer charges you well before the product actually ships (except Nemesis Project.) especially if the product probably isnt even made.
i also cant think of any mfg changes the price up and down like you said either. no one would buy their product if a company was stupid enough to do that.
Let's face it: The deal is very rewarding. For the company and the customer - a classic win-win-situation.

The only way to think of handling this better is to charge an advantage payment and the whole amount when the bike is shipping.

You can't expect a company taking orders for a customized bike without having some form of securtiy that noone gets the idea to cancel the deal.


are you sure?? :rolleyes:
I just double-checked so I'm sure.

I can live with the ~5 months I wait for the ltd. though. The parks in the alps are closed anyway and the weather is pretty ****ty.
 

norbar

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wtf? That is more than one year!
Preordered it 4-6 months before the initial release date but around that Keith ( the main designer) had a surgery that ended with an infection or some other serious complication and the bike would be ready for the winter (so 8-10 months of waiting) but at that time they decided to refine it and send it to people for spring. I understood that plus I had a good price for the legend so I stayed with it.
 

IH8Rice

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You can't expect a company taking orders for a customized bike without having some form of securtiy that noone gets the idea to cancel the deal.
theres nothing "custom" about this bike. it is also not the consumers responsibility to fund a company's mfg costs before a product is actually available. thats a horrible business model
theres no doubt its a killer deal but paying the full amount for a bike and then waiting 6+ months to actually get it is stupid.
 
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theres nothing "custom" about this bike. it is also not the consumers responsibility to fund a company's mfg costs before a product is actually available. thats a horrible business model
theres no doubt its a killer deal but paying the full amount for a bike and then waiting 6+ months to actually get it is stupid.
How so?
 

norbar

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theres nothing "custom" about this bike. it is also not the consumers responsibility to fund a company's mfg costs before a product is actually available. thats a horrible business model
theres no doubt its a killer deal but paying the full amount for a bike and then waiting 6+ months to actually get it is stupid.
If it was priced on the same level as other bikes I'd agree with you but in this case you get a much cheaper bike on much better components. It may not seem like the "right" way of doing business but if the bikes arrive you win. Don't you? I doubt you could multiply that 2500 euros to 4-5k euros normal bikes cost during the time you have to wait for it.
 

frango

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Jun 13, 2007
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Even if it was 4-5k EUR bike you could get by paying few months in advance, what would be wrong with it? It's just a matter of finding customers/buyers. No one forces any1 to buy YT bikes...
 

tabletop84

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theres nothing "custom" about this bike. it is also not the consumers responsibility to fund a company's mfg costs before a product is actually available. thats a horrible business model
theres no doubt its a killer deal but paying the full amount for a bike and then waiting 6+ months to actually get it is stupid.
You can also spend almost twice as much and get a bike with inferior components. So I wonder how stupid that would be...
 

norbar

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Jun 7, 2007
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are you trolling?


no one said the price on their setup isnt good. paying full price for a bike 6 months before its purportedly going to be available is stupid.
The thing is you criticise only a part of the deal. The deal is you pay full price AND the price is low.
 

IH8Rice

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that "part" of the deal that i mentioned is kinda a big part of it....you know, paying for something that probably doesnt exist yet.
would you pay for a car in full 6 months before it is going to arrive?
 

norbar

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Jun 7, 2007
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that "part" of the deal that i mentioned is kinda a big part of it....you know, paying for something that probably doesnt exist yet.
would you pay for a car in full 6 months before it is going to arrive?
If it was 40% cheaper and was better equipped? Yes. Also preorder ordering is not uncommon in the biking industry. Many people order their frames in the winter only for them to arrive late spring/early summer. Unless they are transported by sea turtles they also didn't exist at that time.
Not to mention yes the paying in advance thing is a big loss minus but that is why YT offsets it with their amazing price. Don't even try to think in US msrp's. It's price is somewhere around lower spec big hit models with amazing components.

You are a bit like a guy who goes by the "3 date rule" and if the girl doesn't put out after 3 dates you ditch her. You invested your time (and in some cases money) and you are not going to wait any more for that ;)
 

IH8Rice

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Many people order their frames in the winter only for them to arrive late spring/early summer.

You are a bit like a guy who goes by the "3 date rule" and if the girl doesn't put out after 3 dates you ditch her. You invested your time (and in some cases money) and you are not going to wait any more for that ;)
i cant think of any mfg that takes all your moneys in advance when you "pre-order" a frame/bike. a deposit, yes.
i "pre-ordered" my DB Air but yet wont get charged until it ships.


that also is the worst comparison ive heard in a while.
a better one would be to pay for the dates, the dinners and other crap 6 months before you actually get to see the girl.

im glad some of you dont think its a bad idea. it helps keep small companies in business and sells more i bikes i guess, right?:rolleyes:
 

demo 9

Turbo Monkey
Jan 31, 2007
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Isnt this how the Lahar ****show started? Everybody paid and than he couldnt get it done... Can also kinda say the same thing for evil. I am a huge fan of "cash and carry"
 

demo 9

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have had product originally. they just didnt have enough/any replacements when they broke.
should've elaborated on that 1 a bit more, While the idea doesnt seem so terrible, what i dont like is paying for something that doesnt exist-it can work out fine, and probably would, but if some part of the bike were to go up, they would have to either ask for more money, or put it up themselves, it seems to me that once you pay. that money goes into the bike, so it sets up a situation where your money goes into making the frame, and once they start welding, you arent getting your money back... I think its kind of a gamble, I dont see why they dont do it like the rest of the manufacturers, If the bike is readily available, people will buy it. I wouldnt put my money on something "hoping" it would all work out.

That said, i dont believe this company is out to screw anybody, and it should probably work out fine. I just worry about the "what ifs"