ok will take into consideration
thanks for the insight
thanks for the insight
Macbook VS. PC
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Funny, even though a spambot revisited this 6 year old thread, I am considering buying a $600 PC laptop or a $1200 Macbook Pro.
It seems like for a casual web surfer, I get more from a Windows box, and thankfully Win7 is somewhat stable now.
Any advice?
It seems like for a casual web surfer, I get more from a Windows box, and thankfully Win7 is somewhat stable now.
Any advice?
Asking advise from the spambot ?
Wow I talked like an idiot when I was 17,
Stupid Spambot
Anywho, 5 years later, moved on to an amazing 15" MBP!
Stupid Spambot
Anywho, 5 years later, moved on to an amazing 15" MBP!
Just cracked the screen on my 8 year old Toshiba a few weeks ago, so I'll be in the market for something new when I get back to the states next month. It's a shame though, I just replaced the battery and it still runs great. It's probably on about it's 10th fresh windows install, and I'm by no means an average user, but still, 8 years is a solid run for a laptop. Especially since I was 12 when I bought it with my life savings. It was top of the line back then at 1.6 GHz processor, 1gb ram, and a 250gb harddrive which was unthinkable at the time.
I'll probably replace it with a Mac mini and either and iPad or (more likely) a PC netbook.
I'll probably replace it with a Mac mini and either and iPad or (more likely) a PC netbook.
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I like this. The analogy describes the maintenance requirements pretty well too. Which is why I'd be better off with both a Mac and a PC. And I'll keep my old beast of a toshiba around too as long as it'll live. It's still as fast as most modern computers for everyday tasks.
Any "creative professional" (or a wannabe thereof) will tell you go for the Macbook if you are editing pics or video.
However, you can get one fvcking blistering bastard of a PC laptop for under $1k, which will handle occasional editing tasks with no worries, and yes - Win 7 is quite stable and easy to use.
I like the Dell machines, or maybe a Lenovo. A Dell 15" with 8GB of ram and an i7 proc will set you back $900 before coupons.
Wasn't there a huge outrage at Apples new video edit software? I remember some big movie names slamming them.
Though for web surfing if you can really justify the price (I never could) apples are the perfect net books. They are stable and run fluid. I work mostly with data and a lot over the net and owning a mac would be convinient if it wasn't too low on my priority list.
I will give my 2 cents here as I just went through this purchase last month. I needed a high performance laptop that will quickly render and edit HD video. I went into it open minded, and was going to look into all brands before I purchased. Honestly, I was just blown away at the price difference between a pc laptop and macbook.
I ended up getting a HP direct that is absolutely loaded. Its got an upgraded i7 proc, 8G of ram, 750 gig 7200rpm hard drive, 1 gig of the same radeon graphics that comes with the macbook etc......
With a coupon, the computer cost me $900.
When I built up a Macbook to the exact same specs on Apples website, it was $2150.
That is a ton to pay for Smug.
I did not need this computer for any work related stuff or any high end video or photo stuff, and there was no way I could justify the price difference. My wife publishes a monthly book, and has to work exclusively off of Macs which is mandated by her company, so she told me to look at a Mac originally. I did, no thanks.
Here is what I do not get though, I also recently got a new smartphone. I compared the samsung galaxy s 2 with the I phone 4s. I went with the G S2 because I really love the screen and the thin profile etc..... but these two phones are similary priced and good competitors against one another. I can see anyone reasonable picking one or the other depending on what they like better. Both were solid choices at about the same price. That is not so with laptops. My new laptop kicks ass and does everything I need and it cost me less than half of a macbook. I was a economics and finance major and that does not add up.
I ended up getting a HP direct that is absolutely loaded. Its got an upgraded i7 proc, 8G of ram, 750 gig 7200rpm hard drive, 1 gig of the same radeon graphics that comes with the macbook etc......
With a coupon, the computer cost me $900.
When I built up a Macbook to the exact same specs on Apples website, it was $2150.
That is a ton to pay for Smug.
I did not need this computer for any work related stuff or any high end video or photo stuff, and there was no way I could justify the price difference. My wife publishes a monthly book, and has to work exclusively off of Macs which is mandated by her company, so she told me to look at a Mac originally. I did, no thanks.
Here is what I do not get though, I also recently got a new smartphone. I compared the samsung galaxy s 2 with the I phone 4s. I went with the G S2 because I really love the screen and the thin profile etc..... but these two phones are similary priced and good competitors against one another. I can see anyone reasonable picking one or the other depending on what they like better. Both were solid choices at about the same price. That is not so with laptops. My new laptop kicks ass and does everything I need and it cost me less than half of a macbook. I was a economics and finance major and that does not add up.
I'm a fan of vmware fusion
I've had my macbook for 4 years now and it's still rock solid! You'll be nothing but happy - don't forget to use the migration assistant - it makes getting your data off the PC super easy
I hate that analogy. Windows boxes are NOT that high maintenance or hard to operate. Maybe back in 1996 they were, but we're a few software generations removed from that now.
If you abuse both systems, doing stupid crap to them and installing every screen saver or web game you can find, the Apple box will hold up better. No doubt about it. But the implication with these things always seems to be that you have to customize it or tweak it to get reasonable performance.
I've installed dozens of Windows 7 machines that are all operating perfectly well in front of non-expert users with exactly zero customization. The Mac protects you better against being a dumbass, but a casual user will be able to use both machines just fine.
Also, long gone are the days where it's advantageous to buy a Mac if you're a designer. Both operating systems have the big name design software available in similar interfaces and performance levels.
It's just a choice. You're paying for a typically higher build quality, and for MacOS. Consider it a $500 OS. If you like the OS a lot and can afford the premium, fantastic. Buy it. But there's no magic secret to which one is better - it's simply a decision based on what you like.
i think the point the analogy was trying to make is that mac's are more of a one size fits all approach, where for PC, the sky's the limit when it comes to customization.
I like how durable the outer shell of macbooks is. I'm yet to find a pc like it.
lul wut?
maybe the new aluminum body ones. i had a plastic shell macbook. fvcker cracked in half a dozen places.
At least it's not flexy like my toshiba.
The price delta isn't really THAT huge if you compare to high end PC stuff. The macbook air isn't too far off of the ~$1100 pc "ultrabook" and my m6500 is about the same less than the 17" mac book pro. I'm not sure that the delta is actually justifiable, I've never owned or worked with a Mac, but you've got to compare apples to apples (hurr hurr).
The glass trackpad and gestures justify the price difference to me, and I'm pretty agnostic as far as operating systems go.
Yup the new final cut sucks. They essentially turned a professional application into a consumer app.
I moved to macs because I needed one for final cut pro, still not sure what I'm moving to now, probably adobe premiere. So now I'm free in choosing an os but I still think my next computer will be a mac because I've become so accustomed to the os. However should I find something in a future version of windows that I like I might move back to a "normal" computer.
TL;DR
Anyone still arguing mac vs pc in 2012 is using their computer wrong. They both do the same thing.
Only exception: gaming.
Anyone still arguing mac vs pc in 2012 is using their computer wrong. They both do the same thing.
Only exception: gaming.
in other news, anonymous just released their own distro of linux, based on ubuntu
Different bikes also do the same thing yet it doesn't stop monkeys from arguing which one is the best
I never got the whole "macs are better for video/sound editing". Why is that? If I PC has a better soundcard, video card, faster ram, and more universal inputs so your camera doesn't have to use a special adapter, what makes it worse? Can a PC not use the same software as the apple?
I will say that my iPad is one of the most unreliable devices I have used in the last 3 years. The browser randomly crashes about twice a week. I don't get the hype. My android phone is about the same or better and my vista (oh noes) PC is unflappable.
I will say that my iPad is one of the most unreliable devices I have used in the last 3 years. The browser randomly crashes about twice a week. I don't get the hype. My android phone is about the same or better and my vista (oh noes) PC is unflappable.
Apples used a RISC/64-bit architecture while the PC was mired in x86/32-bit back in "the day." This had advantages for CPU/memory-intensive tasks like video/sound/photo editing. Now they all use the same x64/64-bit tech. And the software is available for both platforms, generally. So basically the Macs are *not* better for video/sound/photo work any more from a technology standpoint any more.
The only reason people say Macs are better for editing is because 15 years ago, Apple had an extremely strong presence in the creative professional market (edit: primarily because of the RISC architecture as SS indicated above), and thus a lot of software was available on Macs that was not available elsewhere. Also, the state of the computer market was such that file types were not always easily convertible between the computer types.
That has persisted despite the fact that there are MANY great editing packages across both brands, a plethora of open file types, lots of file conversion applications as well as the horsepower to do the conversions, and they use the exact same hardware.
That has persisted despite the fact that there are MANY great editing packages across both brands, a plethora of open file types, lots of file conversion applications as well as the horsepower to do the conversions, and they use the exact same hardware.
And this day was a LONG time ago. People carried on with that argument long after Intel went RISC based. The P6 architecture was always better and was basis for the first Intel Macs which Apple admitted were superior when they switched:
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DW hated the macbook he bought his wife, he called it a giant turd...
I can't think of a single reason to go Mac over any flavor of Windows (or Linux), other than to make sure your file types and versions for certain software are compatible with other people that you may have to collaborate with.
Other than that, it's pretty much down to "do you like to right click or not."
My brother-in-law hates his new Macbook Pro. My sister bought it for him and that's the only reason why he hasn't sold it yet.
there.
I just looked at the "basic" price for a Macbook Pro 15".
HOLY SH!T.
It's the same price for a brand new Dell XPS 15" with TWICE the ram, faster i7 proc, bigger drive, Windows 7 Ultimate and MS Office Business installed.
Seriously, both machines do the same stuff. I just don't get it.
HOLY SH!T.
It's the same price for a brand new Dell XPS 15" with TWICE the ram, faster i7 proc, bigger drive, Windows 7 Ultimate and MS Office Business installed.
Seriously, both machines do the same stuff. I just don't get it.
Macs have a much more intuitive interface than windows. And for someone who is new to a computer that can make a tremendous difference in the learning curve. It certainly did for my dumb ass.
that's what's great about them. but also is a double edged sword. they're designed for the lowest common denominator.