Anyone catch Hangtown this past weekend on FuelTV and NBCSports? Twas some great racing in both motos and classes!
The Outdoors, 2012 AMA Pro Motocross Series
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James looked really good on the Suzuki. Bummer Villopoto and Reed are hurt.
Man,Stewart really toned down his racing style.That was why I liked him.
How is that bigger news (or any news at all) than JS7 going 1/1 after changing teams mid season? Give me a break.
It's not but interesting non the less. He didn't win it easily either. Dungy was down his throat until they caught lappers. Was a good race until then. James made it clean through. Guess Yamaha's suck eh?
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Thanks for posting this!
Didn't win it easily? umustbhigh. Dungey wasn't pressuring him whatsoever. Following? Yes. Pushing the pace, and applying pressure? No.
Stewart wasn't even going 85% the entire time. His best lap time was a 2:04, and he was just cruising clicking off 2:06-2:07's the entire time, because he wasn't getting pushed to go any faster than what he needed to.
James looked better that race than he pretty much ever has in recent years. His bike looked dialed. He used very little body work, being more efficient, and he paced himself. A coming of a mature JS7, forsure.
Lappers is a poor excuse. James had to go through the same lappers as Dungey, he just went through them better. JS7 wastes no time to make a move (whether it be for a lapper, or person of higher position), while RD5 is more patient, and waits a longer period of time to make a move. His patience is what cost him valuable time to JS7. RD5 trailing MA800 in Moto2 is another prime example. JS7 made short work of them both after he trailed them for a few laps.
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Agreed, he's been a gentleman regarding JGR, even thanking them during the podium speech. Even if there was some hard feelings between them, he seems to be taking the high road. I hope this is the reboot many of his fans (me) have been waiting for.
I was looking for a stronger performance from Tomac, his starts have been hurting his finishes. But gotta hand it to Baggett, that late charge in Moto 1 was nothing short of amazing and had me hooting/hollering at the tv like an idiot.
Man was Alessi running a road block in that second moto. Maybe we can get a close up of that serious Navy Seal face since Clay was there.
Go Pro released the whole first moto from James...
Yeah I know I was there shooting the race. Up until James passed the lappers after checkered flag onto fading L Hander which is about 40 feet wide, they were within 1-2 seconds of each other and Dungey went through traffic to get to James. Here is the "ass kicking" you think happened, would he have beat Villapoto or Reed? He road well and won both motos which is cool the 250 race was better to watch.
http://www.motoxaddicts.com/2012/05/21/lap-time-comparison-charts-hangtown/
Fixed it!
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Please, save your prognostication for your tarot card readings.
He was actually there brother. What you see in person is easy to tell if someone's pushing the limit or riding a clean race. In outdoor, it's very easy to see with the naked eye what's really going on. I'd rather watch Supercross on TV and motocross in person.
Watching motocross on TV makes it look like the ruts are little grooves and braking bumps look like chatter when in reality, the best rider out there is taking a beating from monster tank slappers and braking bumps the size of dead cattle.
Ianjenn,
You do know O'show had bubba militantly programmed to ride smooth and calm? DO NOT push it, have fun, 60 to 80 percent was the idea? The mission is to slowly rebuild the mind and body. James can be rehabilitated, this is only the beginning of a guy who everyone said was 'washed up'.
You do know O'show had bubba militantly programmed to ride smooth and calm? DO NOT push it, have fun, 60 to 80 percent was the idea? The mission is to slowly rebuild the mind and body. James can be rehabilitated, this is only the beginning of a guy who everyone said was 'washed up'.
But,you gotta face it,I had to,that Villipoto has caught Bubbas old speed and then added some.It's just a sad fact that Ricky and Bubba brought it to another level,but they have been caught.
You are absolutely smoking crack if you think anyone has caught Bubba's speed. Can he handle that speed? often times he has shown he can not, but no one has ever been as 'fast' as James. RV is a diesel, he just can keep it going, where bubba has shown to meltdown mentally and pay the price with landing on his head. MX is a job to RV, he does not do it for the love, so its hard to take it to the next level when you don't love it.
Yeah true either way good to see him riding well again. And was it the bike? My buddy I road up there with from Showa was saying James really didn't like how Yamaha's handle guess it could be true.
As far as physical talent on a moto, Stewart is the firm owner of it. No other motocrosser has the tools he has physically. As far as approaching the entirety of a race, a season and a championship, his game plan and approach are the things that hold him back from taking the G.O.A.T. title from R.C.
R.C. pieced all of it together and built a near perfect foundation for his accomplishments and stayed methodical and won out in the end on being the best. Moto is a race, but it's a race of perfection. Part of perfection on the track is attrition. Health, consistency and actually being on the line in one piece wins way more races.
We love him doing anything to beat R.C. , Damon Bradshaw going after McGrath, Leichen assaulting Rick Johnson, etc. But in the end, we still celebrate the champs who outsmarted them.
R.C. pieced all of it together and built a near perfect foundation for his accomplishments and stayed methodical and won out in the end on being the best. Moto is a race, but it's a race of perfection. Part of perfection on the track is attrition. Health, consistency and actually being on the line in one piece wins way more races.
We love him doing anything to beat R.C. , Damon Bradshaw going after McGrath, Leichen assaulting Rick Johnson, etc. But in the end, we still celebrate the champs who outsmarted them.
Its no secret that when James tested the suzuki, EVERYONE around him said he looked at home on the bike, not just power wise and all that tech crap, but the way he was positioned on the bike, natural fit...but Suz couldn't pay anywhere near what JGR could, and Suz couldn't promise a future in neckcar. He should have been on the yellow bike in the first place, he paid a price being on the blue bike, possibly too much head trauma?
It's cuz it's just as much a job to Stewart as it is to Poto.But Stewie was more concerned about his image and money at the time.But now,surprise surprise,he's found his passion for mx once again since the guys that would beat him are out with injuries.That's such fortunate timing for him ,isn't it.
For the record,I used to be a huge bubba fan.I don't enjoy watching Poto at all on the 450s.But he IS faster than Stewart over the course of an actual race,not just to lap 6 when Stewart plows himself into the ground.I really hope Bubba gets his act together and finds a bit of humility.Maybe this summer he'll realize the real fans are MX fans .You get less respect for only doing SX and I think only Windham could get away with that right now,anyway.
For the record,I used to be a huge bubba fan.I don't enjoy watching Poto at all on the 450s.But he IS faster than Stewart over the course of an actual race,not just to lap 6 when Stewart plows himself into the ground.I really hope Bubba gets his act together and finds a bit of humility.Maybe this summer he'll realize the real fans are MX fans .You get less respect for only doing SX and I think only Windham could get away with that right now,anyway.
The love of riding motorcycles and training, between poto and stewart is incomparable.
The love of getting paid to ride motorcycles and train is parallel.
As long as James sticks with O'show, he will eventually figure it out.
The love of getting paid to ride motorcycles and train is parallel.
As long as James sticks with O'show, he will eventually figure it out.
I'll disagree.I hated Chad reed,but when he didn't get a ride and put together his own team and basically rode for free until the end of the season he gained immense respect from alot of people.Stewart lost alot of it by not racing outdoors and acting like a douche on that stupid tv show.I'll put money on it Stick,that if stewart and Poto ever complete a season SX or mx,both intact,Ryan will come out on top.
I will take payment in swag,if you prefer.So start hiding a "Scary stash"in a dark corner of the warehouse.
I will take payment in swag,if you prefer.So start hiding a "Scary stash"in a dark corner of the warehouse.
There is no chance Villopoto can match the natural talent and speed that Stewart has. Stewart has said it before and shown on many occasions that he will DIE trying to win. Next year will tell when hopefully the entire field is all there ready to race, Stewart will be the supercross champ in 2013, as Steve Matthes says 'Stamp it'. 2013 is going to be a great year for Supercross and Motocross.
Stewart was on a team that was a Supercross only team. What did you expect him to load up in a Sprinter and go racing. As for the whole "If only Reed and RV were racing" argument... get over it. It sucks that they are hurt but they both made mistakes and they got hurt.
No,he'd need something a little more sizable than a sprinter.But yes,I expected something.I bet if Villipoto and Reed were well,he'd be nowhere to be found.
Wasn't about the pay according to James. Suzuki wouldn't offer him a long-term deal. They wanted a 1-yr, he wanted a multi-year deal. Job security was his motive, and not having to worry about renegotiating a deal, or searching for a new one 3/4 of the way through one season.
JGR came through and offered him a long-term deal, nascar option, and promised him they could FIX the yamaha for him (which they tried...moving the motor forward and utilizing smaller diameter forks).
delusional.
If it weren't for Dungey's DNF last yr in motocross, he would've WON the championship. Not Villopoto. FACT.
Villopoto only had 3 overall wins in MX, to Dungey's and Reed's 4 overall's each...so it's not like Villo is some overly dominating factor in outdoors. And Steward put in short work of Dungey this past wknd without even having to push himself by any stretch. People have short term memories..
let Stewart get situated and dialed on that Suz. not good for his competitors.
you are definitely crazy if that's what you think.
He is actually crazy. But if you take one word that SCARY says seriously, you've lost on RM.you are definitely crazy if that's what you think.
That hurts my feelings,Butch.Not my Internet feelings,my real ones.He is actually crazy. But if you take one word that SCARY says seriously, you've lost on RM.
If James comes back and starts winning,I'll be happier than any of you.Just don't think it'll happen.
Go Barcia.
I did not realise this was the caseHe is actually crazy. But if you take one word that SCARY says seriously, you've lost on RM.
. At the end of the day it's just my opinion. But what does that really count for? 
no offense to anyone...
get ready for Freestone this weekend! check your local FuelTV and NBC Sports schedule for times.
Can JS pull another 1-1? Does Barcia have an answer for the late charge of Baggett? I am hoping so!
Can JS pull another 1-1? Does Barcia have an answer for the late charge of Baggett? I am hoping so!
Ya, can't wait for the moto 2's to be played at midnight, sweet time. Also so stoked on the fact that I pay like $120/month in cable and still can't watch moto 1. Great job AMA.
Hell, I can't even find a torrent of moto 1, and I am a torrent GOD.
Hell, I can't even find a torrent of moto 1, and I am a torrent GOD.
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I just always hope and pray nobody in the Lite's class tries to murder/decapitate/maim one another. There have been so many regional heroes not make it out of the first moto with massive injuries over the years.
Most anybody who's known, ridden with or pulled for their local pro can attest that Lite's is murder on Hi-Test.
Most anybody who's known, ridden with or pulled for their local pro can attest that Lite's is murder on Hi-Test.
yo, watch moto 1 on http://www.allisports.com/alli/moto
Another 1-1 for JS7 against RD5 on one of his strongest tracks.
