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School for a middle age man.

4xBoy

Turbo Monkey
Jun 20, 2006
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What would be a degree to get that would allow reasonable pay, lots of time off?

I am considering going back to school but running into, what I should do that will be worth it in the end.
 

jdcamb

Tool Time!
Feb 17, 2002
19,838
8,438
Nowhere Man!
You should know everything by now. Except for the stuff you forgot for smoking to much weed. Your usually forgiven for that by society though....
 

jimmydean

The Official Meat of Ridemonkey
Sep 10, 2001
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Portland, OR
I was half way through my MBA when I realized that the job it lead to I would not like, so I dropped out. I might finish it some day if they are willing to pay me to go.
 

jimmydean

The Official Meat of Ridemonkey
Sep 10, 2001
41,192
13,339
Portland, OR
X3 for teacher. My wife just started her summer break last thursday. I'm already super jealous.
When I was growing up, I had no idea how good I had it as a kid. Both my parents worked in education, so summer was 3 months of goofing, family road trips, visiting grandparents. It wasn't until middle school I figured out that most other kids didn't have the same arrangement.

Summers off would be awesome.
 

ALEXIS_DH

Tirelessly Awesome
Jan 30, 2003
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Lima, Peru, Peru
When I was growing up, I had no idea how good I had it as a kid. Both my parents worked in education, so summer was 3 months of goofing, family road trips, visiting grandparents. It wasn't until middle school I figured out that most other kids didn't have the same arrangement.

Summers off would be awesome.
thats awesome.

when i was a kid, my mom was too busy working 60hr weeks and travelling around the world for business/vacations, and my dad was too busy with the awesome nightlife afforded to him by mom´s continuous trips.... i used to see them on the weekends only. during the week, if i saw them every other day, it was a good week.... now they wonder why i do not like to be around people or noise too much....
 

Nick

My name is Nick
Sep 21, 2001
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where the trails are
i think about it....

i couldn't deal with today's kids/preteen/teenagers.
I think about it too.
Dealing with, and actually having an opportunity to provide some positive influence, would be excellent. Fvck, they can NOT be any more difficult than the adults I deal with on a regular basis.

That, and the long vacations. :D
 

OGRipper

back alley ripper
Feb 3, 2004
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NORCAL is the hizzle
He's looking for reasonable pay and you guys think he should be a teacher? :think:

Don't go back to school for lack of anything better to do. Find a way to get paid working in or around something you are passionate about, and you will care much less about time off.
 

Ciaran

Fear my banana
Apr 5, 2004
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So Cal
I think about it too.
Dealing with, and actually having an opportunity to provide some positive influence, would be excellent. Fvck, they can NOT be any more difficult than the adults I deal with on a regular basis.

That, and the long vacations. :D
Think of it this way... those adults you deal with on a daily basis? You would be teaching their spoiled brat idiot offspring.

I could never be a teacher. I would last one day before back handing a kid or telling them that they are a loser destined for fast food. :D
 

bdamschen

Turbo Monkey
Nov 28, 2005
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Spreckels, CA
He's looking for reasonable pay and you guys think he should be a teacher? :think:
You can live off a teacher's salary. You're not going to adding dubs to the benz any time soon or owing a benz in the first place, but you can live. Not a bad deal for only working 180 days out of the year.
 

jdcamb

Tool Time!
Feb 17, 2002
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Nowhere Man!
Geology is fascinating and profitable. Maybe not as enriching as Marine Biology or Architecture but way more profitable...
 

jmartin

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Oct 19, 2005
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I went back to school in my mid 20's (not quite middle age) to do the teacher thing. My advice, go volunteer in a classroom or at a school. Tell them what you are thinking of doing and they will probably be helpful. This will give you a good idea of what to expect. You CANNOT go into teaching and stay sane if it is just for the time off, the time on is really a killer. Expect a minimum of ten hour days and being paid for about 7 for your first few years. After that things slack off a bit to about 9 hour days :) You will be dealing with parents, who can be worse than the kids sometimes, but you will get some great ones. Same goes with the kids. You will get some that drive you crazy but the way I see it they fairly are new to this life thing and you get to help them learn and correct their ways. When all is said and done, I feel very sorry for people who do not truly enjoy what they do and are not challenged by their job. I was there before and know what it is like.

That is a long way to say, teacher +1 :)
 

4xBoy

Turbo Monkey
Jun 20, 2006
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Minneapolis
Teacher is of low interest, but I do like the time off part.

Still working on possibilities, wife supporting me is so far, my favorite.
 

KavuRider

Turbo Monkey
Jan 30, 2006
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CT
I'm fairly certain what you are looking for does not exist.
I am in the same boat, trying to find something like that...wondering what I should go back to school for.

If I didn't have my house, I would probably move to Sedona or Moab and be a wrench in a bike shop. I think I would enjoy that immensely...
 

skyst3alth

Monkey
Apr 13, 2004
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Denver, CO
My girlfriend is a teacher. During the year is awful, lots of work. We're talking 14 hour days. Teaching all day, grading all night, coming up with lesson plans. There's a lot more to teaching than meets the eye, i've finally realized. I've spent a few good nights helping her grade papers. Granted i'm usually a few beers deep, they're only 3rd graders so it's not too bad, just repetitive.

This summer she is a nanny and gets to sit out by a pool for 4 hours a day, or maybe take the kid to the museum or something cool. Today the parents paid her to go out and take the kid horseback riding, then cool off in their cousin's pool on a slopeside condo at Keystone. She's making the same money as teaching during the year.

1/2 the year she's losing her mind, the other half she complains she's getting too much sun at the pool.

A lot of our friends are teachers too. They ask me what i'm doing for the summer. I say i'm going to my cube hell like every other day. They're taking 3 months off to go to South Africa to "wander around with a tent for a while". They also don't ever come out for beers because they can't afford it.

Get a job making a lot of money owning really nice stuff, driving a nice car, doing fun things in weekends and 2-3 weeks out of the year. Or make marginal money, don't dine out like a jackass and live it up for 3-4 months out of the year.

I'm starting to think I did something wrong with my career choice. Well that, and I want to open a brewery where I work 100 hour weeks with no time off and no benefits. Maybe i'm just stupid. Maybe I like it. :thumb:
 
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DirtyMike

Turbo Fluffer
Aug 8, 2005
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Well lets see here. First off the teaching idea is completely out if you think you are getting reasonable pay and lots of time off...... As a teacher you get two choices, learn to budget your money for those three plus months your not working, or work all summer long for summer school. That's right, all that time off you don't get paid for.

Reasonable pay and a lot of time off is in the eye of the beholder. I have a kid that works for me that has lots of time off, and for what he does gets reasonable pay. Question is what are you thinking of as reasonable. are you looking for a years pay in a relatively short amount of time?

There are in fact options, most are dangerous. Ice road, crab fishing are two that everyone has heard of, make a hundred plus in three months blah blah blah...... Touching off that subject, do you like to drive? If so getting into trucking may be an idea to be had. If you own your own truck you can get really good pay doing contract pulling/work and time off is a lot.... as in every time your sitting somewhere not moving your not making money.



Truth is that reasonable pay, and a lot of time off do not go together without many many years of hard dedicated work to begin with.
 

jdcamb

Tool Time!
Feb 17, 2002
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I am learning how to utilize and build coal fired ovens. It has been very rewarding. hanging out with my brother and getting paid is awesome!
 

skyst3alth

Monkey
Apr 13, 2004
866
0
Denver, CO
Yeah all that I said, i'm not thinking of being a teacher. Ever. The stress they go through dealing with punk kids all day is not worth it for me.

Now, spending 5-7 years in a brewery doing 100+ hour weeks to get it up and running to a point where i can work a 60 hour week that's normal, i'm totally fine with that.

I _Hate_ working in a cube for someone else. Hate.
 

Jim Mac

MAKE ENDURO GREAT AGAIN
May 21, 2004
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the middle east of NY
Everyone keeps saying "teacher" but I say that this is a BAD idea right now.

I just "walked" (still taking summer classes, though) for my MS in Organizational Management (MBA minus the stats) and was freaked out during the ceremony when the chair of the education dept. sitting next to me stated that less than 50% of the graduating Masters in ED would find work right now. Teachers (and especially higher paid people in education) are being cut right and left due to the economy's 'aftershock' effect on city and state budgets. These jobs tend to get cut later in recessions:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/20/business/public-workers-face-continued-layoffs-and-recovery-is-hurt.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper
 

Toshi

Harbinger of Doom
Oct 23, 2001
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My girlfriend is a teacher. During the year is awful, lots of work. We're talking 14 hour days.
14 hour days? Cry me a ****in' river. :D

Anyway, my serious suggestions would be to not be a teacher--job cuts are occurring everywhere, as said above--and to instead look at what fields are growing. That'd be nursing, energy exploration, etc. I'm sure there's a list out there somewhere.