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WC#6 Val D' Isere (FRA)

nowlan

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Jul 30, 2008
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IMO Minnars track side interview on DirtTV about the pads on his back, and what he thinks of the track was a bit unprofessional, calling out the organizers and whatnot.
 

mtg

Green with Envy
Sep 21, 2009
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Must be pretty sh!tty if even their sponsored riders rather use nothing or maxipads. ;)
Agree. It is kinda sad to see them doing things like taping cereal boxes and maxi pads to their backs when pretty much all of them have sponsors that make armor. If they'd actually wear some sort of pads, it would help drive the development of very light armor that actually works well. It's not like the requirement to wear pads in France was a surprise.

Minnaar's sponsor makes this:
O'neal Stealth Protector Shirt

Surely, he could have had them make a modified "prototype" version ahead of time, assuming he would have wanted something lighter (although the review already says it is minimalist)

Ben Reid is sponsored by TLD, who makes the below vest. This one has removable pads, so he could have removed everything that wasn't required without even having something custom made.
TLD 3800 Vest
 
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rosenamedpoop

Turbo Monkey
Feb 27, 2004
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just Santa Cruz...
There's a difference between an injury and a boo-boo. Injury keeps you from riding or worse, boo-boos are uncomfortable but create no real hindrance (E.G. roadrash)

Most DH padding/gear protects against boo-boos. The only exceptions that come to my mind are helmets, Leatts, & (to a lesser degree) knee pads. There are shades of grey in perception here of course, but most racers seem to agree as evidenced by their protective gear choices...
 

UiUiUiUi

Turbo Monkey
Feb 2, 2003
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Berlin, Germany
There's a difference between an injury and a boo-boo. Injury keeps you from riding or worse, boo-boos are uncomfortable but create no real hindrance (E.G. roadrash)

Most DH padding/gear protects against boo-boos. The only exceptions that come to my mind are helmets, Leatts, & (to a lesser degree) knee pads. There are shades of grey in perception here of course, but most racers seem to agree as evidenced by their protective gear choices...
in a way you're right

but a great backprotector will help to prevent spinal injuries, same goes for elbow pads. do you guys know that the nerves which control your hand run on the outside of your elbow? :)
 

lachy_mtb

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May 25, 2008
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Agree. It is kinda sad to see them doing things like taping cereal boxes and maxi pads to their backs when pretty much all of them have sponsors that make armor. If they'd actually wear some sort of pads, it would help drive the development of very light armor that actually works well. It's not like the requirement to wear pads in France was a surprise.

Minnaar's sponsor makes this:
O'neal Stealth Protector Shirt

Surely, he could have had them make a modified "prototype" version ahead of time, assuming he would have wanted something lighter (although the review already says it is minimalist)

Ben Reid is sponsored by TLD, who makes the below vest. This one has removable pads, so he could have removed everything that wasn't required without even having something custom made.
TLD 3800 Vest
It's not so much a case that they don't want to run what their sponsors made, it's the fact that no one was informed of the rule changes so didn't bring any armour. It's pretty hard to get armour shipped in to a race at the last minute, in butt-****-nowhere
 

IH8Rice

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Aug 2, 2008
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Im over here now
it's the fact that no one was informed of the rule changes so didn't bring any armour. It's pretty hard to get armour shipped in to a race at the last minute, in butt-****-nowhere
how could they have not known? they raced in France previously at La Breasts and all had to wear armor of some sort.
 

rosenamedpoop

Turbo Monkey
Feb 27, 2004
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just Santa Cruz...
in a way you're right

but a great backprotector will help to prevent spinal injuries, same goes for elbow pads. do you guys know that the nerves which control your hand run on the outside of your elbow? :)


As a point of interest & at the risk of sounding more argumentative than I mean to... how many bike related spinal injuries have you heard of were a result of impact rather than compression/over-rotation? I haven't heard of any...

Back protectors seem to solve a nonexistent problem. Leatts address a more real and present danger.

Good point on the elbow protectors (shades of grey)... I didn't know that.
 

UiUiUiUi

Turbo Monkey
Feb 2, 2003
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As a point of interest & at the risk of sounding more argumentative than I mean to... how many bike related spinal injuries have you heard of were a result of impact rather than compression/over-rotation? I haven't heard of any...

Back protectors seem to solve a nonexistent problem. Leatts address a more real and present danger.

Good point on the elbow protectors (shades of grey)... I didn't know that.
i am aware this is anecdotical evidence but i am one, crashed a few years back in a race run hit a tree full on backwards with my dainese jacket. i basically flattened the Dainese back protector. i wasn't able to use my back muscles for days and i still think i might have hurt myself pretty badly if not for the safety jacket. but oh well. do as you feel comfortable.

let's get back to racing really hope my fantasy team will do well tomorrow.
 

kidwoo

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As a point of interest & at the risk of sounding more argumentative than I mean to... how many bike related spinal injuries have you heard of were a result of impact rather than compression/over-rotation? I haven't heard of any...
Now ya have! :)

I nailed a tree about two years ago flying out of a berm I went onto all out of control and couldn't reach my brakes.

13 fractures along that fancy bone tube down my back.






Given it was dirtjumping and I'd never have been wearing a spine protector anyway but that was all spine and all impact.
 

William42

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Jul 31, 2007
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Has anybody noticed that mick hannahs parts are always snapped off right next to a part where something bolts onto the bars?
 

FarkinRyan

Monkey
Dec 15, 2003
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in a way you're right

but a great backprotector will help to prevent spinal injuries, same goes for elbow pads. do you guys know that the nerves which control your hand run on the outside of your elbow? :)
Snapped my olecranon (point of the elbow) off something like 10 years ago by crashing onto a rock from height. Still can't and never will be able to completely straighten that arm, can't curl the pinky and ring finger on that hand independently due to the nerve being ganked.

That's not a boo-boo, that's an injury that elbow pads would have prevented had I been wearing them. In the interest of closing the gate long after the horse has bolted, I now wear elbow pads religiously for DH.
 

Idahoo

Chimp
Apr 21, 2009
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Speaking of Leatt's, a bit of a side-track, but why the hell does it seem like the neck brace (regardless of brand) has been almost completely abandoned this year by the pros...? Especially the Athertons after the incident with Dan...? They were wearing them for the rest of the season after his injury and now they aren't.

Did I miss something saying the pro's can't wear them this year?
 

aaronjb

Turbo Monkey
Jul 22, 2010
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Speaking of Leatt's, a bit of a side-track, but why the hell does it seem like the neck brace (regardless of brand) has been almost completely abandoned this year by the pros...? Especially the Athertons after the incident with Dan...? They were wearing them for the rest of the season after his injury and now they aren't.

Did I miss something saying the pro's can't wear them this year?
You didn't miss anything. We all missed the independent studies pointing to efficacy, though.
 

toodles

ridiculously corgi proportioned
Aug 24, 2004
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The feed sucks, but the coverage is awesome. Will be a good replay at full speed. Maybe French net access sucks?
 

trib

not worthy of a Rux.
Jun 22, 2009
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Interesting to see if Gwins time can hold up, think that the other riders have more of a chance beating him if they can already see what the time to beat is, rather than putting it all in to beat Gwins qualifier only to see him take 5s off of that.
 

Idahoo

Chimp
Apr 21, 2009
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If not for that small wash at the top, Ropelato would have been very close to a guaranteed podium. He's doing amazing for his first season as a quick fill-in. Hope Spez or another team picks him up for a full season next year!
 

toodles

ridiculously corgi proportioned
Aug 24, 2004
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Norway is gonna be epic now. Bring on the showdown...

This uplink sucks over here. Dunno what its like elsewhere but its more like a face paced gallery than live video...
 

trib

not worthy of a Rux.
Jun 22, 2009
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Gutted for Gee, always the bridesmaid.

So happy for Brook though, a complete animal on the bike and seemingly a great guy too.

I think Val D'Isere will run out of beer within an hour or two
 

CBJ

year old fart
Mar 19, 2002
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Wow Aaron is the champ already. He can thank the new guns for some great riding today. I really thought Gee would win his run looked so fast but really cool to see Brook stay cool and win.

Wanted to see Loic do better he is one of my new favorite riders to watch.
 

Jeremy R

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Nov 15, 2001
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behind you with a snap pop
That track was sick to watch.
Great race.
Some brutal crashes though.
Watching Bulldog celebrate was awesome.
I can't imagine how it feels to win your first world cup.
And now that Gwinn does not have to worry about points,
he is gonna lay the hurt down in the finals.