A bit of an update to this. I called up DT Swiss (USA) and they shipped me a new cassette body for about $50. Hub is still running very smooth, and pretty quiet as things go.
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Hey Udi: I've got the freehub body off an evo 2 right now. The springs are these little plates with a rounded end to mount them. Is that the same system you've messed with? What are you doing just sticking in something like a vise and bending them down?
edit: Okay that's what I did.
I think it's louder now
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Lulz. What did you do for lube when you reassembled?Hey Udi: I've got the freehub body off an evo 2 right now. The springs are these little plates with a rounded end to mount them. Is that the same system you've messed with? What are you doing just sticking in something like a vise and bending them down?
edit: Okay that's what I did.
I think it's louder now
Whoa kidwoo, I thought you were joking about the vise...
They are just little leaf springs, if you look at how they work, all you need to do is slide them out by hand and ever so slightly bend them (with your fingers or with pliers gently) so that they don't stick out as much. Which way to bend should be obvious by looking at how they sit in the freehub.
They are pretty fragile little things so be careful. It's pretty easy though, you want them soft enough that they are *just* pushing the pawl fully into the track seat, rather than really slamming it in there (which is how they work stock - drag and noise central). If you go too far you'll know because they won't push the pawl up at all.
I take full responsibility if you screw it up... and by that I mean I'll probably just laugh.
Edit - here's a pic. Obviously have to take the spring out to manipulate it.
They are just little leaf springs, if you look at how they work, all you need to do is slide them out by hand and ever so slightly bend them (with your fingers or with pliers gently) so that they don't stick out as much. Which way to bend should be obvious by looking at how they sit in the freehub.
They are pretty fragile little things so be careful. It's pretty easy though, you want them soft enough that they are *just* pushing the pawl fully into the track seat, rather than really slamming it in there (which is how they work stock - drag and noise central). If you go too far you'll know because they won't push the pawl up at all.
I take full responsibility if you screw it up... and by that I mean I'll probably just laugh.
Edit - here's a pic. Obviously have to take the spring out to manipulate it.
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Yeah it ain't rocket surgery once you get in there. I stuck the flat part in a vise and just flexed them a little with my fingers. I over did a few of them and had to bend them back.
All four pawls are definitely under less pressure now (you're right though, those things are way too sprung).
It's just not any quieter
I'll probably pull it apart again tomorrow and try a different grease. Like a metric shlt ton of it.
All four pawls are definitely under less pressure now (you're right though, those things are way too sprung).
It's just not any quieter
I'll probably pull it apart again tomorrow and try a different grease. Like a metric shlt ton of it.
Re-read my original postYeah it ain't rocket surgery once you get in there. I stuck the flat part in a vise and just flexed them a little with my fingers. I over did a few of them and had to bend them back.
All four pawls are definitely under less pressure now (you're right though, those things are way too sprung).
It's just not any quieter
I'll probably pull it apart again tomorrow and try a different grease. Like a metric shlt ton of it.
I'm sure you figured this out, but the pawl doesn't need to spring back to "top out" point when installed in the freehub body, only needs to go *just* far enough to fully seat in the track when installed in the hub body. As you slide the freehub on you can see how close you got to that point.All four pawls are definitely under less pressure now (you're right though, those things are way too sprung). It's just not any quieter
With all pawls set to do that, it should definitely be quieter than stock. I've usually used thicker grease than slick honey (Motorex Bike 2000 at the moment) but be careful obviously.