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Hope V2 Brakes Are Pretty Sick

ianjenn

ianjenn

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Okay so I have ridden a good number of brakes. From the Hopes of the late 90's you had to splurge while riding and the Purple Hayes that were essentially on/off. Then I ran M4 Hopes for a long while.

We had Avid's on a test bike they essentially felt like you were looking to die. Then Saints on another to similiar to old Hayes no adjustment or modulation of any kind.

The V2's I have had about a year. The lever throw can be made to hit the bar they have a TON of power the only issues are weight and the size of them when trying to get the shifter where you want them. ANyone else have any time on the V2 brakes?
 
AndyPav

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i love getting little reviews like this...ive mainly rode hayes and avid, i was in love with hayes but lack the braking power i need ( or maybe im just too fat ??) ive been shopping around for new brakes and been looking at hope a lot. what kind of riding do you do sir??
 
ianjenn

ianjenn

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Our stuff is anywhere from REAL steep to mellow like 2000 feet in 3 or so miles. I did a few runs down in Santa Barbara that has good elevation drop around 3600 and is fairly steep in parts. I drug the brakes 80% of the time. Much slower than I was a decade ago. They had ZERO issues, no fade at all. I am 205 and about 210 Kitted and ready to ride.







 
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Deano

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i gotta say, im in love with my current xt(new style) levers and saint pots. zero issues all year and 1 finger modulation. to full on stop- no problems.


not quite the power my formula The ones had, but so much more modulation
 
ianjenn

ianjenn

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Did you find the XT gave the Saint better modulation? That was the primary issue I had with SAINT the Hope cost the same so I went that route and found the modulation, power and build all to be very good.
 
AndyPav

AndyPav

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dude..firstly the photos are SICK!!! secondly those trails look SICK!!! thirdly...sweet bike...looks like im getting some V2's next year.
 
Tomasis

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looks interesting re hope.

I have same opinion as you. I had very old c2 (1997 or somehing) then hayes purple then Hope M4, Mini. Currently Saint.

Exakt same feeling about brakes I got as you described. Im looking at Hope again :P though for agressive enduro bike. I think modulation is my top priority, no need such excess of power as saint has .

I might give chance for saint buying XT levers . Though user Bullcrew thinks it still lacks modulation for 100% xt brakes.hm

How about formula RO brakes? they seem have mixed reviews.
 
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Deano

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i found i got more power then i would ever need with saint/XT combo, but better modulation then most other brakes ive used.

with that said i think brakes are a personal preference thing more then anything else.

I weigh in around 200 lbs fully geared up. i loved the power of my The Ones, but i felt they were trying to kill me whenever things got a bit too slippery, i ride rooty tracks mostly, so need modulation more then outright power.
 
Carraig042

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The V4s do look nice.

I have had the V2 s for a while now and i like them a whole lot. There is a lot of modulation and they have consistent performance Unlike the saints i had before.
 
HardtailHack

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Has anyone had luck with the V2's in the wet? I've tried three different sets of pads and swapped out rotors and they still refuse to work in the wet, my Motos before were the same.

I find that the brakes work but they aren't particularly good at anything, however I don't ride hills big enough to have fade with any 8" rotor equipped brake so they may excel in that area and I will never know.
 
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the law

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manuel19911 said:
i had got v2 protos in green (from team hope) with goodridge metalic pigtails and not brake the 1/2 than my actually shimano saint
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Huh? Are you saying that -- in your personal opinion -- Hope V2s have only half the braking power of the saints? Or that you have to brake only half as much with your v2s compared to the saints? If it is the former, I suggest getting them rebuilt as there is something wrong with your setup.
 
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the law said:
Huh? Are you saying that -- in your personal opinion -- Hope V2s have only half the braking power of the saints? Or that you have to brake only half as much with your v2s compared to the saints? If it is the former, I suggest getting them rebuilt as there is something wrong with your setup.
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perhaps my v2 there wasn´t correctly, but i bleeded them and nothing changed, i had got moto lever
 
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the law

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manuel19911 said:
perhaps my v2 there wasn´t correctly, but i bleeded them and nothing changed, i had got moto lever
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Those are the older model, but while people have different brake preferences, it seemed a bit strange to hear of such drastic a difference. Luckily there are brakes that suit all (hopefully) of us.
 
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Percy said:
If they are as good as my Evo M4's are, they'll be awesome-sauce!!:thumb:
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They could use some power imho.

I also don't understand why people complain about saint and no modulation. With a very long lever you can modulate them easily because of the leverage. The only quarrel I have with them is that they seem to be braking my fingers constantly.
 
Carraig042

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HardtailHack said:
Has anyone had luck with the V2's in the wet? I've tried three different sets of pads and swapped out rotors and they still refuse to work in the wet, my Motos before were the same.

I find that the brakes work but they aren't particularly good at anything, however I don't ride hills big enough to have fade with any 8" rotor equipped brake so they may excel in that area and I will never know.
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I ran my V2's in the rain for the first time today and they did just fine. they made a bunch a noise at the beginning of the run just like everyone elses brakes that was riding. I am using Disco brakes sintered pads.

-Brett
 
HardtailHack

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Carraig042 said:
I ran my V2's in the rain for the first time today and they did just fine. they made a bunch a noise at the beginning of the run just like everyone elses brakes that was riding. I am using Disco brakes sintered pads.

-Brett
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Disco's are the crazy cheap pads aren't they? I've use sintered and organic Hope pads and Nukeproof pads but I'm not sure what type of pad they are and none work in the wet. I've cleaned the rotors every time before fitting new pads so I just came to the conclusion it must be the discs and stopped riding in the wet.

The V2's aren't very good, the braided lines are nice, the machining is nice and the levers feel really nice but as far as performance goes I'd say Codes and Saints kill them every time.
I don't know if people just like them because they like to be different but I'm not a fan, my 8yo Magura brakes have better lever feel but they fade super quick and from time to time fluid bypasses the cup seals(I'm guessing) and the lever stays on the bar which is somewhat scary.
 
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ianjenn

ianjenn

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HardtailHack said:
Dico's are the crazy cheap pads aren't they? I've use sintered and organic Hope pads and Nukeproof pads but I'm not sure what type of pad they are and none work in the wet. I've cleaned the rotors every time before fitting new pads so I just came to the conclusion it must be the discs and stopped riding in the wet.

The V2's aren't very good, the braided lines are nice, the machining is nice and the levers feel really nice but as far as performance goes I'd say Codes and Saints kill them every time.
I don't know if people just like them because they like to be different but I'm not a fan, my 8yo Magura brakes have better lever feel but they fade super quick and from time to time fluid bypasses the cup seals(I'm guessing) and the lever stays on the bar which is somewhat scary.
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Seems like you are the only one that doesn't like them. I can get mine to go to the bar if I want a ton of modulation and they have a TON of power.
 
Carraig042

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HardtailHack said:
Dico's are the crazy cheap pads aren't they? I've use sintered and organic Hope pads and Nukeproof pads but I'm not sure what type of pad they are and none work in the wet. I've cleaned the rotors every time before fitting new pads so I just came to the conclusion it must be the discs and stopped riding in the wet.

The V2's aren't very good, the braided lines are nice, the machining is nice and the levers feel really nice but as far as performance goes I'd say Codes and Saints kill them every time.
I don't know if people just like them because they like to be different but I'm not a fan, my 8yo Magura brakes have better lever feel but they fade super quick and from time to time fluid bypasses the cup seals(I'm guessing) and the lever stays on the bar which is somewhat scary.
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Yeah, they are the really cheap ones, but they have proven to work out great on my brakes and other people who ride in my group.

I had bad luck with my Saints. My Saints performed badly and these Hopes have been nothing but great thus far.

-Brett
 
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crawler7000

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Just put on some new V2's with stock pads. Coming off older codes w/ sintered pads and they definitely have less power.
Anyone know what pads they come with stock? I'm hoping they're organic and if I throw sintered I'll get some more power.
 
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I had a couple of sets. The first set of Tech V2's had the bigger caliper & were replaced under warranty.

The second set were the newer 'current' style with the smaller, more machined calipers. Both sets were alright, when they worked.

I had (still have) a set of Formula The One's one my trail bike which were/are better in every way. Lighter (a lot!), more powerfull, levers arn't stupid long & no inconsistent feel.

I've literally done nothing to them, ever. Compared to the experience I had with Hope, it's the polar opposite. Couple of guys I ride with who also use Hope's have a similar experience with the Tech brakes on trail bikes too. Always fettling & fixing.
 
HardtailHack

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Yeah my Hope's seem to need bleeding because of stiction rather than spongy lever feel, my V2's were sticky after the first ride in the wet. The levers used to move in in a sort of notchy fashion, after pulling them apart I noticed the anno in the bore of the master cyl had worn through.

After fitting new seals, pistons and filling with fresh fluid they felt much much better than when they were new but they still felt underpowered with all three types of pads.

Magura MT6 will be my next brake.
 
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dropmachine

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Every magura product I have run has been the sketchiest rubbish EVER. Brakes that don't brake but do break, forks that spray oil...forget that.

I'd rock hopes in a heartbeat. Everything I've had from them has been more than trustworthy, albeit pricey too.
 
6thElement

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Had my Tech V2's for a couple of years. I spent the cash on them after two years of multiple RMA replaced Codes. Haven't had a single problem with the V2's :)

edit: If you have lever positioning issues they work fine with the Avid Matchmakers. The Avid's let you angle the shifter, the Hope's don't.
 
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HardtailHack

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dropmachine.com said:
Every magura product I have run has been the sketchiest rubbish EVER. Brakes that don't brake but do break, forks that spray oil...forget that.

I'd rock hopes in a heartbeat. Everything I've had from them has been more than trustworthy, albeit pricey too.
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Yeah I'd never run my old Magura brakes on a proper DH bike they are sketchy, but my fork still has 5yo internal seals and they are fine. Not a perfect fork by any means but you almost never have to service them(the oil lubed ones) they are crazy stiff and the Aussie distributor is pretty damn helpful.
 
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I was happy with my V2's for the most part, loved the lever adjustments.. They were stong but lacked modulation in my oppinon. The braided cable was not as strong as I thought..but I also went right into a tree so that might be the reason. I am happy with my Elixr cr's though, Hope are just soo expensive! Oh and the fact that not matter what I did they never wanted to bleed correct.
 
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