Long Term Banshee Legend Review
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Thanks everyone for your input in this thread. I just picked up a 2011 Legend last week so this thread is a good reference for getting it set up.
Haha good eye. I got the bike used, and the previous owner bent one crankarm and replaced it with one of a different color. They are MRP Camber cranks. I will probably end up replacing the cranks and wheels if I'm going to keep the bike for a while, as the rims are fairly dented up.
your seat looks like it has warts.
Also bought a Legend. I will build it up in the next days. I heard from many people, that the CCDB does not work well in the Legend. Are there any experiences with the CCDB Air or even the Bos Void ( that cant be bought right now). I really like my Boxxer WC, so I´d like to give an air rear shock a try. They even should work good because of the progression at the end of the travel or am i wrong ?
Have you asked him? The CCDB guys claim the shock was designed for the linear and slightly degressive leverage curves. Just like on the legend so unless thats BS I think it should be ok.
found a quotation on another forum
"Best air shock I've ridden in terms of sensitivity and plushness, but have had to play around with the volume to get the progression I want, as it is not as progressive as most coil shocks."
but i think i will give the ccdb air a try. with selling the rc4 its not much more expensive than a ti-spring
That's what I was thinking. If I get a good price on my rc4 I will get it.found a quotation on another forum
"Best air shock I've ridden in terms of sensitivity and plushness, but have had to play around with the volume to get the progression I want, as it is not as progressive as most coil shocks."
but i think i will give the ccdb air a try. with selling the rc4 its not much more expensive than a ti-spring
Though that quote really perplexes me. Most coil shocks are linear, rc4 is an exception. Does it mean ccdb air lacks mid stroke support? I hated that on my dhx air. If you get it somewhere before june post a short review.
I thought from reading another forum the ccdb air is more progressive. It sounds like people is having hard time getting full travel with the ccdb air.
It's no surprise with a progressive frame.
Banshee Support says :
Hi Sebastian
I have herd the same thing about the vivid air is not progressive enough for the legend but I have not had the opacity to test the vivid air yet so its had to commit on this.
We have been doing testing with air shocks on the legend and the best two have been the cane creek db air and the x-fusion victor air.
The db air is a grate shock with all the benefits of a coil shock but much lighter grate small bump compliance and good progression in the ending stroke.
The vector air is grate value for the money good progression but just not as nice over the small bums
Thanks for riding banshee bikes
Hi Sebastian
I have herd the same thing about the vivid air is not progressive enough for the legend but I have not had the opacity to test the vivid air yet so its had to commit on this.
We have been doing testing with air shocks on the legend and the best two have been the cane creek db air and the x-fusion victor air.
The db air is a grate shock with all the benefits of a coil shock but much lighter grate small bump compliance and good progression in the ending stroke.
The vector air is grate value for the money good progression but just not as nice over the small bums
Thanks for riding banshee bikes
just copy n paste
Customer support outsourced to Taiwan as well?
Banshee has grate customer service!
Snicker, I see what you did there
8 x 22.2 I believe is the spec, though +/-0.1mm in your shock hardware won't cause you dramas
Does anyone know a shop in the EU that has it on stock?
Hey guys,
I just got myself a Legend MkII with a Fox RC4. I only had the chance to ride it once, due to the bad weather conditions in Europe and I really liked it. But I have a bit trouble with the setup of my shock.
I weigh about 70-73kg (154-161pounds) and have a 300lbs Fox spring.
Does anyone have any suggestions or maybe a kind of standart setup that I could modify?
Right now I have the Rebound 7 clicks from fully closed (slow), No Bottom out, No HSC and LSC about 8clicks from fully closed. Air pressure is 170psi.
I thought that less Bottom out and HSC is good and I'ld just put Rebound and LSC in the middle position and then figure out if I want less or more.
But it felt really over damped and the rear started to bounce around if it hit a few roots.
Rebound doesn't feel too fast, and the spring also feels right, so I don't really know what it is.
I just got myself a Legend MkII with a Fox RC4. I only had the chance to ride it once, due to the bad weather conditions in Europe and I really liked it. But I have a bit trouble with the setup of my shock.
I weigh about 70-73kg (154-161pounds) and have a 300lbs Fox spring.
Does anyone have any suggestions or maybe a kind of standart setup that I could modify?
Right now I have the Rebound 7 clicks from fully closed (slow), No Bottom out, No HSC and LSC about 8clicks from fully closed. Air pressure is 170psi.
I thought that less Bottom out and HSC is good and I'ld just put Rebound and LSC in the middle position and then figure out if I want less or more.
But it felt really over damped and the rear started to bounce around if it hit a few roots.
Rebound doesn't feel too fast, and the spring also feels right, so I don't really know what it is.
Give it more bottom out cause the levarge curve is quite linear. Try adjusting the high speed compression so the bike doesnt spike. Remeber when you add rebound, ie, slower it also affects compresion. Open up the sslow speed compression to counter it. I weigh a bit more than you do and use a 400 lbs spring. I like the bike to be higher in its travel though.
The rebound on the legend feels better if it's fairly fast. I use quite a bit HSC and a bit bottom out. My base settings were taken from some RC4 setup guide and I went from there.
Keep us posted
Hey,
sorry it's been a while, but I have been ill for quite a while (sinus infection).
Well, I've been trying some stuff with my setup and already had my first race.
I'm still riding a 300lbs spring, but I really want to change to 350lbs.
Bottom out is fully closed now, Rebound about 6 clicks in and lsc and hsc both about 7-8clicks in (depending on the track).
It took me a while to find that setup, because I was riding a Cove Shocker before, which needed wayyyy less compression and bottom out.
The bike feels a bit overdamped now, but I was using too much travel before. I think with a 350lbs spring and a bit less compression, this should be no problem anymore.
I'm quite happy with the bike, I just wish it would pedal a bit better, it feels harder than my old Shocker, probably because it has less travel, but doesn't pedal any better. High speed stability is great, I always feel that the bike excels at high speeds, I actually feel safer pushing really hard, than riding more carefully, because the bike becomes so stable and follows the terrain really good! On the other hand, if I have a bad day, the bike doesn't help me at all, as you really have to ride aggressive for it to perform!
I decided to try riding a blue spring in my Boxxer now (instead of red, I weigh about 69-71kg), because somehow my fork feels way to soft now and is giving me a hard time staying in a central position on the bike. I don't like to ride the Boxxer with too much compression, so I'll try a harder spring. I've never had that problem on my old bike, but maybe that's because the Shocker had more Sag in the rear.
I really like the Legend so far, and think it's a great bike! It has some weaknesses, but as every bike has some, I think I'ld always choose a bike that excels in rough terrain like the Legend over one that pedals really good!
sorry it's been a while, but I have been ill for quite a while (sinus infection).
Well, I've been trying some stuff with my setup and already had my first race.
I'm still riding a 300lbs spring, but I really want to change to 350lbs.
Bottom out is fully closed now, Rebound about 6 clicks in and lsc and hsc both about 7-8clicks in (depending on the track).
It took me a while to find that setup, because I was riding a Cove Shocker before, which needed wayyyy less compression and bottom out.
The bike feels a bit overdamped now, but I was using too much travel before. I think with a 350lbs spring and a bit less compression, this should be no problem anymore.
I'm quite happy with the bike, I just wish it would pedal a bit better, it feels harder than my old Shocker, probably because it has less travel, but doesn't pedal any better. High speed stability is great, I always feel that the bike excels at high speeds, I actually feel safer pushing really hard, than riding more carefully, because the bike becomes so stable and follows the terrain really good! On the other hand, if I have a bad day, the bike doesn't help me at all, as you really have to ride aggressive for it to perform!
I decided to try riding a blue spring in my Boxxer now (instead of red, I weigh about 69-71kg), because somehow my fork feels way to soft now and is giving me a hard time staying in a central position on the bike. I don't like to ride the Boxxer with too much compression, so I'll try a harder spring. I've never had that problem on my old bike, but maybe that's because the Shocker had more Sag in the rear.
I really like the Legend so far, and think it's a great bike! It has some weaknesses, but as every bike has some, I think I'ld always choose a bike that excels in rough terrain like the Legend over one that pedals really good!
I am the same weight as you and did the same on Iron Horse Sunday L .
The blue(firm)spring is way too stiff for any tech trials(slow) or riding in d wet esp if there are roots or rocks.If the your trials are faster and steeper you might be ok with this one.
I also tried 350 on the back with 130psi and BO adjuster half open and I cant bottom out the thing : ((
It's a nightmare if you go slow over roots and rocks.
But you might find something different so please share your experience when u try it .
Cheers