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A sign that mountain bikes are getting too expensive?

eaterofdog

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Sep 8, 2006
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I was coming back from Santos one day and stopped at Popeye's chicken to eat. This truck pulls in right after us and proceeds to the back corner of the parking lot. I parked where we could see the bikes and we grabbed the food. Sitting there eating and I can see the dirtbags looking at the restaurant. So I step out the door and point at them and yell "I'm watching you motherfvckers!" Truck immediately starts, spins tires out of the side of the parking lot, driving 35 mph over the curb and probably fvcking the front end up.

And they were cheap, beat dirtjumpers.
 

DirtMcGirk

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Feb 21, 2008
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When I was living in Virginia Beach we had someone try to boost five of the bikes off of the back of the Tacoma when we were in the grocery store. Thankfully I had locked the bikes in, left my brother-in-law in the car, and told him where I kept my gun. When the first guy stepped up and tried to grab the ex-wife's bike I guess he didn't see my BIL until he was out of the truck, gun drawn.

Say what you like about my viewpoint on guns, but a loaded glock 20 tends to make a bike thief think twice.
 

bdamschen

Turbo Monkey
Nov 28, 2005
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When I was living in Virginia Beach we had someone try to boost five of the bikes off of the back of the Tacoma when we were in the grocery store. Thankfully I had locked the bikes in, left my brother-in-law in the car, and told him where I kept my gun. When the first guy stepped up and tried to grab the ex-wife's bike I guess he didn't see my BIL until he was out of the truck, gun drawn.

Say what you like about my viewpoint on guns, but a loaded glock 20 tends to make a bike thief think twice.
Good thing your bro in law was in the car or they might have jacked your glock too.
 

OGRipper

back alley ripper
Feb 3, 2004
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Bike thieves suck but I disagree with the basic question of the original post. There have always been expensive bikes available. No one forces anyone to buy the super high-end stuff, and mid-range bikes are better than ever.

Also, thieves occasionally follow people with obviously expensive stuff. I don't see any news here.
 

slyfink

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Sep 16, 2008
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Bike thieves suck but I disagree with the basic question of the original post. There have always been expensive bikes available. No one forces anyone to buy the super high-end stuff, and mid-range bikes are better than ever.

Also, thieves occasionally follow people with obviously expensive stuff. I don't see any news here.[/QUOTE ]

It was a rhetorical question. My only point was that these thieves seem to recognize the value of our bikes, and are targeting them in an organized way and that sucks.
 
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blackohio

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Mar 12, 2009
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When I was living in Virginia Beach we had someone try to boost five of the bikes off of the back of the Tacoma when we were in the grocery store. Thankfully I had locked the bikes in, left my brother-in-law in the car, and told him where I kept my gun. When the first guy stepped up and tried to grab the ex-wife's bike I guess he didn't see my BIL until he was out of the truck, gun drawn.

Say what you like about my viewpoint on guns, but a loaded glock 20 tends to make a bike thief think twice.
Too bad BIL didnt have a bomb to stop the thieves.
 

Big J

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I&#8217;m one of the guys working hard every day to pay to for my mtb&#8217;n habit and little time for encounters w/ the law so my knowledge is lacking&#8230;&#8230;..in the USA at what $ level does a theft become a Fed charge? I assume since we&#8217;re talking bicycles the thieves get a slap on the hand and sent on their way.

J
 

jonKranked

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I&#8217;m one of the guys working hard every day to pay to for my mtb&#8217;n habit and little time for encounters w/ the law so my knowledge is lacking&#8230;&#8230;..in the USA at what $ level does a theft become a Fed charge? I assume since we&#8217;re talking bicycles the thieves get a slap on the hand and sent on their way.

J
federal? no idea. many states $1500 is the value at which theft is classifed as grand larceny and is a felony.
 
I was coming back from Santos one day and stopped at Popeye's chicken to eat. This truck pulls in right after us and proceeds to the back corner of the parking lot. I parked where we could see the bikes and we grabbed the food. Sitting there eating and I can see the dirtbags looking at the restaurant. So I step out the door and point at them and yell "I'm watching you motherfvckers!" Truck immediately starts, spins tires out of the side of the parking lot, driving 35 mph over the curb and probably fvcking the front end up.

And they were cheap, beat dirtjumpers.

Please tell me you did this MadMax style with a crappy microphone and wearing the metal mask!
 

jonKranked

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point of clarity: felonies exist at both state and federal level. for grand larceny for something like a bike, that would be prosecuted at the state level.
 

Big J

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point of clarity: felonies exist at both state and federal level. for grand larceny for something like a bike, that would be prosecuted at the state level.
I see, I'm sure if we ask the thieves they would not only know the intricacies of the law but the penalties as well&#8230;&#8230;.. there&#8217;s some parts of the human condition I find difficult to accept.

I guess I&#8217;m sort of like Chappell&#8217;s friend Chip&#8230;&#8230;.


J
 

DirtMcGirk

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Feb 21, 2008
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I guess if it was a multifaceted group that was stealing bikes all over the place, racking up a lot of value, and crossing state lines you might get to make an argument for Federal prosecution. But even that would sort of astound me as the Feds sort of have more on their plate these days then bike thieves.

Now if they were loading the bikes full of PETN and then detonating them at events, you might have grounds for some Federal attention.

Too bad BIL didnt have a bomb to stop the thieves.
Was that a Boston joke? Too soon...
 
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stevew

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Sep 21, 2001
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hot coffee and a knife works for me to ward off the bad guys.
 

Jm_

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Jan 14, 2002
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I was thinking the other day about materials though. Remember back in the day when high end aluminum was THE exotic material, and you paid dearly for it? Oh, you actually want a light bike? Automatic huge premium. A few tried to make extremely light chromo frames at less than 4lbs, but they ended up too flexy.

It took a few years before aluminum came down and then it became the "normal" material for every bike.

Has the same thing happened with carbon fiber? It's been around almost as long as we've had mountain bikes.
 

jonKranked

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A few tried to make extremely light chromo frames at less than 4lbs, but they ended up too flexy.
this can definitely be done, but you need high quality steel, and a skilled welder.

Has the same thing happened with carbon fiber? It's been around almost as long as we've had mountain bikes.
not yet. companies know they can still charge a premium for it. part of the issue is when there's a change to a frame, you need a whole new mold. and tooling = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ I'm talking $50k easily. (technically the same holds true for hydroformed stuff, but there's a little more wiggle room for milling and mitering rework once they're formed. with carbon, if its not good out of the mold, it goes in the scrap pile).
 

ALEXIS_DH

Tirelessly Awesome
Jan 30, 2003
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bikes were starting to get expensive when the higher end ones broke the $3k barrier for completes.

they were expensive, when the framesets broke the $2k barrier.

they are ridiculously expensive, now that even the not-top-of-the-line ones are more expensive than a ti sprung yamaha, or a fuel injected ktm; and top of the lines can fetch the price of a brand new car.
 
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DirtMcGirk

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Feb 21, 2008
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I hit 54 once on my road bike. I really thought that was gonna be the end of the Dirt saga.
 

JohnE

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May 13, 2005
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Front Range, dude...
Road bike...road bike...roadbike. Hmmm...I think I know of this "road-bike" of which you speak, they are strange, and are ridden by stranger people of whom I no longer associate with.



But it is pretty b!tchin to haul a$$ on one...
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
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I hit 54 once on my road bike. I really thought that was gonna be the end of the Dirt saga.
I had a crash on my xc bike while doing 48mph. Wanted to do a giro stage and the a storm came when I was going down. Good thing there was a gas station to stop me. The sight of a guy runing with a fuel hose only to be insta stoped when it ends was worth way more than my back wheel.
 

jonKranked

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My singlespeed tops out at ~23mph, so that extra 5mph costs you $5700 ;)

And, depending on conditions, like downhill, I could probably hit 28mph. Then I would crap in my chamois.
I have hit the 30s on my Kona Unit...downhill, with a slight tailwind, on pavement with high pressure slicks. It was bad ass...
sorry. should've clarified. that's uphill.
 

MikeD

Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists
Oct 26, 2001
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Say what you like about my viewpoint on guns, but a loaded glock 20 tends to make a bike thief think twice.
Not that I'm against guns, but just starting the truck and putting it in motion (perhaps swiftly) makes theft pretty difficult, too. As a civilian, I'd be cautious of drawing a firearm under any circumstance less than a reasonably-anticipated threat of death or serious bodily injury. I mean, let's say that staring down the barrel of your Glock, the thief continues to steal your bikes. What are you going to do then, shoot him? You have no legal justification for doing so, and your bluff has been called.




Re: federal charges, the theft itself wouldn't be chargeable under anything I know in federal law, but this could apply in circumstances like those Dirt mentioned: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2314
 
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Austin Bike

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Jan 26, 2003
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Not that I'm against guns, but just starting the truck and putting it in motion (perhaps swiftly) makes theft pretty difficult, too. As a civilian, I'd be cautious of drawing a firearm under any circumstance less than a reasonably-anticipated threat of death or serious bodily injury. I mean, let's say that staring down the barrel of your Glock, the thief continues to steal your bikes. What are you going to do then, shoot him? You have no legal justification for doing so, and your bluff has been called.




Re: federal charges, the theft itself wouldn't be chargeable under anything I know in federal law, but this could apply in circumstances like those Dirt mentioned: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2314
Yeah here in Texas there are a lot of tough guys that talk about how they would love to put a few rounds into a bike thief. Lets say, for grins, that you were within your rights and would not be found guilty. Even in that case, you would be spending thousands in legal costs and consume months of your time, potentially threatening your job because you might be in jail for a stint or have to meet with lawyers a lot.

There is being right, but that does not mean that life is easy for you.
 

JohnE

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May 13, 2005
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Front Range, dude...
I could not justify the taking of a life to protect a bicycle.




Well, depending on the bike...


(Just kidding.)



(About "depending on the bike." It is a bike, it is not worth a human life.)