People who run short stems, 30mm or so. .. how do you like it? Did you add a longer top tube at the same time? What stem are you running?
short stem people
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You can get bikes with interchangeable top tubes?
You can get bikes with interchangeable top tubes?
What the whuuuuuuuu?
I feel like that is a recipe for testicle related disaster
I feel like that is a recipe for testicle related disaster
another day, another wonky setup by sandwich
I put a 15mm stem on my dh bike once.
I had to shop around and tried three different top tubes before it felt right.
I had to shop around and tried three different top tubes before it felt right.
Riding a M V10c (Im 5'10"), ran a 28mm Straitline with my Boxxer last year. Currently 35mm, with a Van 180. I love it. My bike came with a 50mm Gravity stem and for some reason I felt too far forward, even with a med frame. 28mm was money, and the 35mm didnt feel too bad. If I get another dc fork Im back to the 28, for sure.
Hehehe. ICWATCHUDIDTHUR...
Well you can switch frame sizes which usually changes your top tube length. Sorry for confusing the Rm mensa crew.
Yes.
"confused"
"confused"
dw patended dynamic top tube length
@ 5 8" My old glory was nimble but was sketch as high speed w short wb and cockpit.What Rojo / Barel did a few years ago really made sense to me Tried to replicate it with the 2010 demo 8 w/o the headset adjustment ( could be done w/ addition of angle set ). Could have gone with a small frame, but got a medium. Rode it for a year with the e 13 stem...then went with the straight line 28mm. Big difference on drops jumps. steep tech **** fast **** everywhere. Cornering is different especially with the off the back feel with the demo. but it corners better the faster and steep the terrain is. Its def not as nimble on lower speed flat sections but I don't care. If I steepened it with angle set that would neutralize that effect.
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Thanks dudes who responded!
I ran a 35mm easton havoc stem when I had a bike where the top tube was too long. I adjusted to it on the first ride and then it did not ride any different than a 50mm stem to me. I no longer have that bike and if anyone needs it, I would trade it for a 50mm black thomson.
running a 28mm straightline on a Medium DW DHR, up from a 50mm e13 on a small roundtube DHR and really like how it feels, especially on steeper stuff.
Ran a 35mm Straitline on 2 bikes that were too long for me. It made the ride a little bit scarier for me, in the beginning, seeing how I had to ride a little more on the front of the bike to get traction on the front wheel, but I got used to it.
What constitutes a "short" stem? Anything under 40? Im 6'1 riding a large dw dhr with a Function top crown, stem in the 55mm setting. Has a 45mm option but never ran it because the aesthetics of the stem would look wonk. Lame excuse but ive become so used to it i havent felt the need to go shorter. Would like to track down my factory top crown and buy the Renthal Integra which is 40mm i think? And am I selling my self short running it at 55mm? Seems like everyone is running 40mm and shorter on their big bikes..
I'm still not quite sure why there are stems still, at least for dual-crowns. Why aren't handlebar perches just forged into the top crown at 0mm like a moto? Seems to me that a stem is a redundant throwback.
I think it would be physically impossible to make one much shorter and have it retain any structural integrity. Half the diameter of the bar + half the dia. of the steer tube take up 30.18mm in and of themselves; and there would almost have to be a web of material between so that the steerer clamp has 360° grip.
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Do you mean like a HOPE crown, or Function crown? Or are you going for more of the 0 offset cesar style stem? My guess is that mountain bikers like ****, and a stem is one more thing to buy. Also, people are very personal about their stem, and it's kinda critical to a comfortable fit. Rise, and extension are very personal choices, but then you also get the tools who will only run a specific brand or color. Finally, you want forks to be MORE expensive by integrating a stem too? what standard? can we get a consortium of engineers (or just DW) to decide on a bolt pattern so you can run e13 by the HIV dual-overbite appropriate-yaw clamp ons?
HAB doesn't count till he's off the wacky bike.
Pretty sure Easton offers a 35mm.
So do Straitline and FSA, they are pretty common, Strailine Pinch is crap as you can't run it without spacers.
logical fallacy. any bike HAB is on is automatically a wacky bike.
don't forget, his DH bike was my old DH bike. aside from a crazy low BB the geometry was pretty good. maybe a bit more slack than some people might like too. IIRC it was like 62° or 63° or somewhere in between.
yeah but the bb is like 12.5 low, right?
wait wut?
yes. When it was my bike it measured in at 12 5/8"
was it a jam miss?
jamis
pics yo
You should have gotten it built with interchangeable top tubes so you could experiment with stem lengths.
pics yo
You should have gotten it built with interchangeable top tubes so you could experiment with stem lengths.
Yes, like the Hope except not aftermarket. There's no reason for a fork to cost more if the perches were part of the initial casting/forging process. It's been a given with MCs for decades.
As for a standard, if you take the aftermarket industry out of the equation, there's really no need. The standard would be wherever Fox, Marz, etc. want to locate the bars on the crown to maybe still give folks room for the stanchions to clear if you want to drop the crown a bit.
I think that hits the nail on the head.
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Doesn't that sound like teh best DH bike eva according to ridemonkeys standards?
Not enough DW magic?
well, could part of the problem be that bikes have variable stanchion extension? because the relative wide range of head tube lengths? I still haven't figured out why triple clamp forks still use steerer tubes vs. thin rods like MXers, as that would be a super easy way to adjust fork offset.
It's a little higher than Krankypants remembers, but yeah, it's stupid low. Hair under 13".
Best pic I could find in 10 seconds of searching.
Edit #2- more side on shot.
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