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Ft. William 2013 World Cup Round 1

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
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Is it only me or did Gwin's suspension seem to compress a bit more under him than usual? I may be making things up after I saw the result but I always thought he rode super firm susp and that was a part of why he carried such awesome speed.
 

kidwoo

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Is it only me or did Gwin's suspension seem to compress a bit more under him than usual? I may be making things up after I saw the result but I always thought he rode super firm susp and that was a part of why he carried such awesome speed.
What made jesus special is that he didn't fall IN the water.

Rock Jesus was swimming the whole way down yesterday, and hence not rock jesus. More like rock hudson.


On that note I think yesterday was the first time I ever saw gee atherton's fork move more than an inch at a time. I was very proud of it.
 

Tomasis

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Feb 26, 2003
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why so much about Gwin? he is human after all and I sincerely dont want that he wins anything at all.

just forget him and enjoy of the riders. Dart, Brook, Smith.. Hill

Like I guessed, Dart was pretty good on qualify, but lacked consistency. Not fitness, since he seems run pretty loose, but less this year due cockpit tweak :weee:
 
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- seb

Turbo Monkey
Apr 10, 2002
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Does anyone actually know if Gwin had any sort of problem/s during his race run?
As bizutch pointed out, Gwin was pretty consistently down in each sector in both qualifying and seeding. 2 seconds up top, 5 in the middle, and 1-2 on the motorway. So mechanical issues seem unlikely. Just not on it, for whatever reason.

Hopefully something will change and he'll be back up to speed for Val di Sole. For all I know he had flu all week or something.
 

bizutch

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Dec 11, 2001
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One thing I always like to believe is a contributing factor to how you race is "Who" you ride with. I equate it to a pick up basketball game. If you play day in and day out with hacks or average joe, your playing ability tends to reflect it. If you play ball with the local tournament champions, your game improves.

I'd love to hear feedback from riders about who they train and ride with and how they feel it affects their racing. Cat and mouse training with the best I think raises your skill level. Someone should do an article and interview session on just that.
 

Kanye West

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Aug 31, 2006
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One thing I always like to believe is a contributing factor to how you race is "Who" you ride with. I equate it to a pick up basketball game. If you play day in and day out with hacks or average joe, your playing ability tends to reflect it. If you play ball with the local tournament champions, your game improves.

I'd love to hear feedback from riders about who they train and ride with and how they feel it affects their racing. Cat and mouse training with the best I think raises your skill level. Someone should do an article and interview session on just that.
By that logic, he must have been training with a lot of "Enduro" riders in the off season.
 

tabletop84

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Nov 12, 2011
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Like I guessed, Dart was pretty good on qualify, but lacked consistency. Not fitness, since he seems run pretty loose, but less this year due cockpit tweak :weee:
He lost most of the time on the 'motorway' at the bottom. He was second and fourth at spilt 1 and two respectively.
 

bizutch

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By that logic, he must have been training with a lot of "Enduro" riders in the off season.
Not refering to Gwin at all actually. Refering to how when riders switch teams or train with different people, their riding style and results seem to vary. I don't think an individual's training program just suddenly pushes somebody past the rest.

But switching up the people you ride with changes things for a rider, either adding a fresh approach, a tweak or stalling them b/c they're riding with inferior talent.

One that comes to mind always is Syndicate. I'd like to see their results starting from the day they joined up to now just to see if their results have gravitated closer to each other or they are still very seperate riders come finals.

That make sense?
 

EVIL JN

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Jul 24, 2009
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One thing I always like to believe is a contributing factor to how you race is "Who" you ride with. I equate it to a pick up basketball game. If you play day in and day out with hacks or average joe, your playing ability tends to reflect it. If you play ball with the local tournament champions, your game improves.

I'd love to hear feedback from riders about who they train and ride with and how they feel it affects their racing. Cat and mouse training with the best I think raises your skill level. Someone should do an article and interview session on just that.

I can definietly see your point, not that I have any methdological study over this but when I ride with someone much faster I tend to pick up more speed whereas with someone slower I ride somewhat more consistent but slower. However when I ride alone I cant say that it actually has any effect then it is more about how hard I can bother to push.

For a race I would say at a given level of ability it is the mind that sets the entire limit to your performance. The head is always the flight control center and if that part aint there nothing else will be either, which is not to say a wc rider cant get down a track. They can ride anything anytime as long as they slow down a bit but the performance will be lacking if the head is not fully there
 

BigHitComp04

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Jun 20, 2005
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jonKranked

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Nov 10, 2005
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yeah that's what people called him at the ESC races. As he dominated everybody at like 15 years old.
i seem to recall USAC made an exception for him to ride pro at regional races despite him being a jr by age because he was so far ahead of the rest of the jr x category. he still had to race as a jr at national champs though (i think)
 
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