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got the new pike...

syadasti

i heart mac
Apr 15, 2002
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Any drawback to using a sleeve to go from 15 to 20mm hub? Never used a 15mm hub, so not sure how they look up close. If anyone wants to guinea pig it, I can make one or two to try out just for the general good of the Monkey.
You'd have to chop the ends off the 20mm hub.

15x100mm vs 20x110mm
 

syadasti

i heart mac
Apr 15, 2002
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Well that sucks. Guess I'll keep all my 20mm stuff then.
As mentioned before, many brands have different end caps and/or conversion kits.

Next the industry needs to move all bikes to the fatbike/DH hub dimensions like some small builders are doing - an actual beneficial change especially for larger/weaker wheel sizes. A narrower axle that saves less than 50 grams up front or half assed end caps on rear isn't good enough.
 
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manhattanprjkt83

Rusty Trombone
Jul 10, 2003
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Nilbog
Instead of talking about potential hack job combinations, does anyone else have actual seat time on the new pike?
I do been riding it for about a month now, its fantastic, best quality of travel i have ever ridden. They really did a hell of a job in keeping the fork from diving on steeps/braking. Mine is the solo version, I always keep the fork in 'descend' setting when on the trail, for road climbs or riding back to the car i'll throw it into the climb mode...

I can say that after 8 or so years of riding 20mm forks for xc, i dont miss the 20mm fork at all...The pike feels more stiff than the others.
 

Wa-Aw

Monkey
Jul 30, 2010
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Philippines
Has rock shox finally replaced their crappy seals with the pike or do the fancy stanchions alone make it a decently plush fork? With the positive reviews of the pike, I hope the boxxer gets the same treatment soon and actually becomes a decent fork.
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
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Has rock shox finally replaced their crappy seals with the pike or do the fancy stanchions alone make it a decently plush fork? With the positive reviews of the pike, I hope the boxxer gets the same treatment soon and actually becomes a decent fork.
The stanchions do not make it a "plush" fork. Since the beginning of time, certain fork manufacturers have had no problems making "slippery" forks. Others that decided to not use lubrication and grease that packs up in places but doesn't circulate had horrible problems. Complex air spring systems also created issues. Hard coatings have always been used, the latest batch may be better and a nice feature, but this isn't what makes a fork well-damped or well lubricated.
 
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sbabuser

Turbo Monkey
Dec 22, 2004
1,114
55
Golden, CO
Has rock shox finally replaced their crappy seals with the pike or do the fancy stanchions alone make it a decently plush fork? With the positive reviews of the pike, I hope the boxxer gets the same treatment soon and actually becomes a decent fork.
They must've figured it out a long time ago - my old school pike is decently plush, and the new lyrik has no issues with stiction, either.
 

bismojo

Monkey
May 5, 2009
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39
Anyone used fox 36 float 160mm (kashima RLC version) before the new pike? How do they compare...

thanks :)
 

tacubaya

Monkey
Dec 19, 2009
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Mexico City
I spent a couple of days in Shawn Cruickshanks' (SRAM/Rock Shox) service center up in Whistler and I saw the new Boxxer and Pike and let me tell you, it seems SRAM is spending a lot more time and resources making quality seals and castings now.

The new boxxer casting looked significantly more refined and the new low friction seals doesn't feel as slick as the Racingbros yet they are a huge step forward compared to the old crappy seals. Also the new boxxer will come with revised Solo Air parts that solve the oil migration issue (oil into neg. chamber).
 
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Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
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AK
I just rode my new pike and it seemed real good. Pushed it hard through some very rooty-sections and it handled them better than any fork in that class I've ridden. Really seemed to deal with the quick successive hits like advertised. Very nice.
 

Christiaan

Monkey
Feb 27, 2004
525
0
Weesp, The Netherlands
I spent a couple of days in Shawn Cruickshanks' (SRAM/Rock Shox) service center up in Whistler and I saw the new Boxxer and Pike and let me tell you, it seems SRAM is spending a lot more time and resources making quality seals and castings now.

The new boxxer casting looked significantly more refined and the new low friction seals doesn't feel as slick as the Racingbros yet they are a huge step forward compared to the old crappy seals. Also the new boxxer will come with revised Solo Air parts that solve the oil migration issue (oil into neg. chamber).
Any idea when the new boxxer will be released? And will it also have the new damper? Any pics?
 

slyfink

Turbo Monkey
Sep 16, 2008
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Ottawa, Canada
I do been riding it for about a month now, its fantastic, best quality of travel i have ever ridden. They really did a hell of a job in keeping the fork from diving on steeps/braking. Mine is the solo version, I always keep the fork in 'descend' setting when on the trail, for road climbs or riding back to the car i'll throw it into the climb mode...

I can say that after 8 or so years of riding 20mm forks for xc, i dont miss the 20mm fork at all...The pike feels more stiff than the others.
manhattan: how much sag are you running and did you put in/take out any of the volume adjusters?
 

slyfink

Turbo Monkey
Sep 16, 2008
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So I got my first ride on it last night. I can categorically say I didn't notice a lack of stiffness coming from my 2009 36 Talas. What I did notice was much, much, more control. I took it on some of the chunkier trails that I typically ride with my trail bike and it performed admirably. Conditions were ideal last night, but still, it was a pretty night and day difference. Also, I sprained my thumb a while back and this was the first ride it didn't ache after a ride. I think this is in part due to the fork.

I wound up using almost all my travel a few times, despite the fork set at 20% sag and LSC set in the middle.. I'm going to add one of those spacers in there to see how differently it rides.

But I can categorically say this is an awesome fork for trail riding. awesome.