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HELP! my new computer sucks!

lovebunny

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Dec 14, 2003
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so i bought this cheap HP laptop so for 279 from best buy. the only thing i need to do on it is take notes for school. this thing is the biggest peice of crap ever! i can hardly use the internet, it will not scroll evenly through webpages. take minutes to load the simplest of pages. literally i can use my phone faster than this thing. i dont know whats causing it to be so slow but its really starting to piss me off. plus windows 8 sucks.

is there any way to get more performance out of this thing or am i stuck with a 300 dollar paperweight?

here is the computer i bought
http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Laptops/HP 2000
 

CBJ

year old fart
Mar 19, 2002
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Best thing would be to do a complete reformatting of the computer and install a clean version of Windows without all the crap HP loads on the computer. Windows now comes its own free virus software (windows security essentials) so do not install Norton or whatever you get offered.
 

HardtailHack

used an iron once
Jan 20, 2009
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Yeah cool my sister bought a pretty snazzy i7 HP with 2GB Graphics card 8GB RAM and it has Norton Antivirus and all the **** HP add and it is miles slower than my Core 2 Duo POS. Is that normal for HP computers or could it just be Norton?

Windows 8 is good, 8.1 update is out soon the trial thingy is downloadable now.
 

jonKranked

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Nov 10, 2005
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Best thing would be to do a complete reformatting of the computer and install a clean version of Windows without all the crap HP loads on the computer. Windows now comes its own free virus software (windows security essentials) so do not install Norton or whatever you get offered.
this. the amount of bloatware HP puts on there machines is astounding.
 
Don't go down the Ubuntu rathole unless you're a geek who likes pain. You'll spend the rest of your life chasing buggy drivers and obscure problems.

Windows 8 is hard to get used to and works well once you figure it out.

Best Buy has a geek squad. Get help from them.
 

eric strt6

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Sep 8, 2001
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got my Win 8 HP laptop from Office Depot. One of their customer services is an offer to boot up, remove all the HP bloatware and transfer all your files from the old Laptop. I took them up on it, then when I got home I uninstalled a few more programs that I know I will never ever use.

My Pavillion G7 boots up in less than a minute
 
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syadasti

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Apr 15, 2002
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Don't go down the Ubuntu rathole unless you're a geek who likes pain. You'll spend the rest of your life chasing buggy drivers and obscure problems.

Windows 8 is hard to get used to and works well once you figure it out.

Best Buy has a geek squad. Get help from them.
Actually, other than installation for multi-boot machines, at least the last half dozen or so machines I have put it on are pretty trouble-free including drivers. I only use ubuntu for specific secondary uses. The only machines I've put it on as the primary OS were a POS 7 year old laptop that was a donation to a non-profit but last I heard that machine is still going at 10 with xubuntu. edit: I had a couple of cheap senior citizens use Ubuntu for years without complaint too after I installed it for them. One visit to install ubuntu vs. significantly more visits for customers running Windows when I used to do home consulting for friends.

Now if you really want to waste money and have a headache, waste your money on clueless idiots at Best Buy - brilliant :rolleyes:
 
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HardtailHack

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We have four HP laptops, and they aren't laggy. First, thing I do though is go thru and remove all the extra programs.

Norton should be considered malware.

Why would you buy four, wouldn't you stop after the first one dies multiple times in the warranty period, Do HP have a bad rep over your way? In Oz they are a joke and the warranty service is just ****!

Would disabling the HP rubbish at start up help at all? As it's not my computer I really don't want to mess around with it too much, I swear it takes 3-4minutes before it is fully booted.

Since I am already OT, I have a 2.4GHz Core 2Duo(I am poor) with a SSD and 8GB of RAM running W8 64bit. I cannot get this thing to use even 4GB of RAM, I open multiple programs and start messing around in some video editing software and I struggle to use 3GB. Is it just because my processor is so crap or does the SSD reduce the computer's need to use loads of RAM?

When do SSDs get cheap? I swear in the last year they have gone up a bit in price.
 

Beef Supreme

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I'll bet your problem is with Adobe Flash. Flash is teh suck with 64 bit operating systems.

Open up the task manager when you are having the problem. If flash is using a large amount of CPU resources then that is what is going on. You can disable it, kill it periodically or install an ad blocker.
 
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maddog17

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Jan 20, 2008
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when I got my hp laptop the first thing I did was remove all the extra junk they put in. didn't need to go the full re-install route. I would get rid of the Norton and go with Avast or AVG
 

Sandwich

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May 23, 2002
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Don't go down the Ubuntu rathole unless you're a geek who likes pain. You'll spend the rest of your life chasing buggy drivers and obscure problems.
if ubuntu is bad enough that woody, the perennial non-conformist, switches from it to an actual paid program (win7), then that tells me it's bad enough for somebody who just wants things to work not to bother with.
 

syadasti

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if ubuntu is bad enough that woody, the perennial non-conformist, switches from it to an actual paid program (win7), then that tells me it's bad enough for somebody who just wants things to work not to bother with.
You do know what a dual boot system is, right? When you have clueless people using the computer like seniors (I had two people who used it for years) or you are doing something stupid like looking at porn on sites which are typically infected with malware (butch mentioned above), Ubuntu is a better OS/condom. You can run both.
 

Sandwich

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You do know what a dual boot system is, right? When you have clueless people using the computer like seniors (I had two people who used it for years) or you are doing something stupid like looking at porn on sites which are typically infected with malware (butch mentioned above), Ubuntu is a better OS/condom. You can run both.
You really expect a 70 year old to install a dual boot system so they can surf in peace? Do you expect them to hunt for functional drivers when their USB drive doesn't work automatically? You really must live in a different world than everybody else. But you're right about the porn.
 
You really expect a 70 year old to install a dual boot system so they can surf in peace? Do you expect them to hunt for functional drivers when their USB drive doesn't work automatically? You really must live in a different world than everybody else. But you're right about the porn.
He's describing systems that he's providing and maintaining for others - simple, stable, immune to the ingenuity of fools.
 

Wumpus

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Dec 25, 2003
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Why would you buy four, wouldn't you stop after the first one dies multiple times in the warranty period, Do HP have a bad rep over your way? In Oz they are a joke and the warranty service is just ****!
Haven't had to warranty any of them. Maybe I'm just lucky. I can't imagine that the insides are much different between 'brands' anyway.
 

dante

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Feb 13, 2004
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syadasti

i heart mac
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He's describing systems that he's providing and maintaining for others - simple, stable, immune to the ingenuity of fools.
Right. And Ubuntu installs/uninstalls from WUBI in Windows like any other Windows program (does not yet have Win 8 support for WUBI installation)

USB mass storage support is plug and play across all modern OS including Ubuntu. The part where you might need more knowledge is all-in-one printers - they are certain to be even more broken than on OSX - CUPS works a lot better these days though if you just want to print and its easier to install flash and other commercial software. Its even finally becoming more viable for gaming though I don't think PC gaming has as much relevance on any desktop OS anymore - just use a gaming console.

Although its always had a hold on mid to high-end servers, desktop usage has increased even by the government in the EU - I think Germany was one of the first countries to do it in large numbers: http://leeunderwood.org/linux/linux-usage-in-government.php

That and android is Linux based like Ubuntu.
 
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HardtailHack

used an iron once
Jan 20, 2009
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This one?
Ooooft.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+E1-1500+APU

That's seriously netbook territory, and it's no wonder it's struggling with everything. Can you still return it?


Haha, wow! I just checked my four year old computer(which had **** specs then) and it is almost double the AMD, you'd be better off with a Bluetooth keyboard and a decent smartphone with a note taking app installed.
 

H8R

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Nov 10, 2004
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Don't go down the Ubuntu rathole unless you're a geek who likes pain.
I'm a geek who likes pain and I gave up on it. I skipped Win Vista and ran only Ubuntu for a couple years.


I wanted it not to suck, but it sucked.
 

syadasti

i heart mac
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I'm a geek who likes pain and I gave up on it. I skipped Win Vista and ran only Ubuntu for a couple years.


I wanted it not to suck, but it sucked.
I've never used it as a primary OS for myself. Its OK for simple tasks a low functioning average end-user does - web, email, video, etc, test things, visiting unsafe or suspicious web content in dual boot/VMs, or in various forms of live CDs for free alternatives to paid utilities (parted magic, boot and nuke, etc)
 
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H8R

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Nov 10, 2004
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I've never used it as a primary OS for myself. Its OK for simple tasks a low functioning average end-user does - web, email, video, etc, test things, visiting unsafe or suspicious web content in dual boot/VMs, or in various forms of live CDs for free alternatives to paid utilities (parted magic, boot and nuke, etc)
I tried to run a business with it. It was HILARIOUS.