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bismojo

Monkey
May 5, 2009
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I agree with pretty much all of that, except that it is very possible to make a progressive leverage curve sans linkage. And, as far as linkages go, they can stiffen the rear end, but it doesn't necessarily mean that every frame with a linkage is stiffer than every non-linkage frame.
this..

IMHO SP with linkage driven 'system' you sorta loose the simplicity/maintainability of single pivot.. with that many 'high load + low rotational' bearings and mini links why not use it for 'e-virtual jack square edge chain squatness'
 

xy9ine

Turbo Monkey
Mar 22, 2004
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vancouver eastside
so... no response from Shimano to XX1 and XO1? Son, I am dissapoint.
must suck for them to see nearly every top of the line enduro-esque rig running sram (even if it's only a small percentage of total production volume). surprised not to see a response of some sort yet. alas, manufacturing behemoths lumber along slowly, and producing a similar system (and admitting you're playing catch up) is a face losing move. curious to see how things play out. love my wolftooth / shimano drivetrain, just need a bit bigger cassette; the masses are calling out!
 

slyfink

Turbo Monkey
Sep 16, 2008
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Ottawa, Canada
love my wolftooth / shimano drivetrain, just need a bit bigger cassette; the masses are calling out!
for me it's not the cassette as much as having a derailleur able to control the chain over such a large spread of cassette. Granted, I've been running an SS derailleur (Zee) with an 11-36 cassette (32t ring), but I found when I needed to be in the lower range of the cassette, the chain would bounce around a fair bit. I destroyed my derailleur this past weekend, and have an SG derailleur to replace it with, so I'll give that a try and see if it works better. But that derailleur SRAM has on its XX1 and XO1 seems better capable of handling the larger cassette spread than anything Shimano currently has....
 

xy9ine

Turbo Monkey
Mar 22, 2004
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vancouver eastside
for me it's not the cassette as much as having a derailleur able to control the chain over such a large spread of cassette. Granted, I've been running an SS derailleur (Zee) with an 11-36 cassette (32t ring), but I found when I needed to be in the lower range of the cassette, the chain would bounce around a fair bit.
i've been running the same 11-36 w/ zee (& 30t) on a couple different bikes all summer w/o issue. too much chain?
 

-C-

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Dogboy

Turbo Monkey
Apr 12, 2004
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Durham, NC
My internet access in Europe was pretty spotty (and slow), so I didn't get a chance to upload any pics until I got back home. Anyhow, here's a bunch of stuff in no particular order that I saw.












 

amishmatt

Turbo Monkey
Sep 21, 2005
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Lancaster, PA
My internet access in Europe was pretty spotty (and slow), so I didn't get a chance to upload any pics until I got back home. Anyhow, here's a bunch of stuff in no particular order that I saw.
Is that a dropper remote? It's about time somebody produces one like that.