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Modern used frames? Buying tips?

birdman2447

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Aug 6, 2008
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I am looking to upgrade my carbon fury for something with different suspension characteristics. I am keeping my options open at this point. I would be buying a 2012 or newer bike. Any real "lemon" frames to stay away from. Frames that are very prone to cracking, etc? Or are most modern alloy bikes pretty dam solid?
 

canadmos

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Most frames are pretty good these days. I'd be more worried about who previously rode it and how hard/often it was ridden.
 

supercow

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Feb 18, 2009
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As canadmos said, when it comes to second hand bikes - definitely consider where it's been ridden and by whom.

I always find it funny, when I see Christian Fairclough advertise Brendan's old bikes on Pinkbike, asking a premium price for it. If anything, if a bike was ridden by a pro, even as a "spare frame" - I'd want to pay a 1/4 of the price for it at most.
 
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HardtailHack

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Or go for something with a transferable warranty, only ones I know of are Liteville and Nicolai but there would be others.
 

xy9ine

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^random anecdote - nicolai is rad; i bought a second hand frame, discovered a crack, and they replaced the thing FOC, with custom paint of my choice. boss.
 

blindboxx2334

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Mar 19, 2013
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I always find it funny, when I see Christian Fairclough advertise Brendan's old bikes on Pinkbike, asking a premium price for it. If anything, if a bike was ridden by a pro, even as a "spare frame" - I'd want to pay a 1/4 of the price for it at most.
in the car world, thats usually mocked and called something like 'drift tax'.. seems we have the same thing in the bike world. oh joy :rofl:
 

Sonic Reducer

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Mar 19, 2006
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I am looking to upgrade my carbon fury for something with different suspension characteristics. I am keeping my options open at this point. I would be buying a 2012 or newer bike. Any real "lemon" frames to stay away from. Frames that are very prone to cracking, etc? Or are most modern alloy bikes pretty dam solid?
if you were a little more specific why you are getting rid of the fury or what you were looking for other than "different" you might have better luck with a recomendation.

one thing to take into account is inspecting the frame for cracks, dents, stripped threads, bent stuff, wallowed out bearing housings etc. so buying sight unseen isn't always a great idea for something like a DH bike. I've done it before and all was well but been burned too. YMMV
 

Sandwich

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i don't know why you wouldn't buy a DHR or last seasons' v10 for about $1850. That's a better deal new than many many many used frames, which have seen a season under a cat 1 pro bike washer.
 

ebarker9

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Oct 2, 2007
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i don't know why you wouldn't buy a DHR or last seasons' v10 for about $1850. That's a better deal new than many many many used frames, which have seen a season under a cat 1 pro bike washer.
They doing that again with the v10? I missed out on that deal last season.
 

Sandwich

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I don't know. I think some etailers caught wind of SC's factory clearance, and matched the price. So, if you could find one of those etailers that still have a few frames in stock, you're gold.

Alternatively, and I know crabjoe is going to come out from under his shell to make fun of me, but the airborne pathogen frame is super cheap @ $1600. I don't shy away from used frames, but to be able to pick up a frame that's never been ridden that has good geometry, fair weight, and a good shock, well that's worth passing over the clapped out demos, used tr450s, and two season old legends.

My biggest concern with the "season old" frames is that they were either under a dentist or a sponsored racer. Sometimes it's difficult to tell which is which.
 

bizutch

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Dec 11, 2001
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I'd like to say that just because a DH frame is carbon, doesn't mean it's better. There are some that have warranty issues. I won't name names, but know of more than 1 brand that's had to be sent back.

So just because it's carbon, doesn't mean you're getting a more durable purchase used.
;)
 

dump

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Oct 12, 2001
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I'd like to say that just because a DH frame is carbon, doesn't mean it's better. There are some that have warranty issues. I won't name names, but know of more than 1 brand that's had to be sent back.

So just because it's carbon, doesn't mean you're getting a more durable purchase used.
;)
Everyone that I've know with a carbon mountain bike has had to send it back to the factory due to failure within a few months... most recently Santa Cruz.
 

bizutch

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Everyone that I've know with a carbon mountain bike has had to send it back to the factory due to failure within a few months... most recently Santa Cruz.
It would seem that people have been very good about not blasting "X" company on the net about warranty. I can only assume that the folks have been so far satisfied with the claims process, which is a big plus in the bike industry to say the least. :thumb:
 

dump

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Oct 12, 2001
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It would seem that people have been very good about not blasting "X" company on the net about warranty. I can only assume that the folks have been so far satisfied with the claims process, which is a big plus in the bike industry to say the least. :thumb:
I think so... I imagine you stand a better chance of warranty replacement if you don't come on the internet and blast... yet the fact remains.