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so I got an offer for a senior management job I dont really feel capable of yet...

Austin Bike

Turbo Monkey
Jan 26, 2003
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Duh, Austin
But were you in your backyard retreat?
actually too cold for that right now. In the 50's here. I was specifically promised warm decembers, someone has to pay for this pain.

Hopefully it will warm up soon, the fridge is still stocked with really good IPAs

 

CBJ

year old fart
Mar 19, 2002
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Copenhagen, Denmark
This thread is gaining strength. I should post more without pants.

AustinBiker is that where the wife sends you when you have not behaved?

50s in Austin that is like 10s in NYC.
 
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Austin Bike

Turbo Monkey
Jan 26, 2003
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Duh, Austin
I have to wear pants while posting?? WTF? I don't react well to repression just so you know...
Go to work for yourself. I probably wear pants a few times a week. All of my work is done sin pantalones. Of course the down side is once the remodeling starts this spring there will not be an office to go to in order to escape the pounding.
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
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Warsaw :/
I´ve been working for less than 10 years (and less than 7 of those, at big companies), but I have noticed that companies with problems (in booming economies, at least), are so because of structural issues, rather than tactical blunders caused by middle-management.

you either have a disfunctional team, a clueless or self-serving division manager, a close-to-retirement-manager-who-does-not-want-ro-risk-a-thing, or a company far too leveraged and cash-strapped.
One bad manager can really demotivate and screw up a company in a few months so the problem may be easier to fix than you think. I was on the both ends of such change recently. First changing the spending by a lot on advertising in our company to have it completely ruined (and the whole comapny) in 6 months but a new clueless boss.

I say ask yourself how to you like managing people. Personally I hate it. I'm 4 years younger than you with only 2 years in advertising but unless I really like my team and they are small it's a pain but that's me and I chose my company because I could use my specialist knowledge, not so I can manage people. Maybe try it and it the worst case change job and position if it doesn't suit you. It will look good in your CV anyway.
 

Austin Bike

Turbo Monkey
Jan 26, 2003
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Duh, Austin
Well, it will look good on your CV only if you stay there for 18-24 months. Seeing someone jump from a lower level to a higher level and then move on quickly can be a red flag. Some will interpret that as getting in over your head.

If you are going to take the job, plan to stay for 2 years and stick to it. Jumpers (especially when moving up) never look good on paper and that excludes you from being considered by a lot of recruiters.
 

ALEXIS_DH

Tirelessly Awesome
Jan 30, 2003
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Lima, Peru, Peru
so, after 1 year at current company; I got an email from the german company, asking me to go today at 2pm.

I also got a call from the senior manager who set up the interviews (my biking friend who will now be my boss). he says the meeting is where i´ll be offered the job, formally.
salary offer is the same as my current job. he says I should counter-offer HR with a 20% increase.


fingers crossed.
 

ALEXIS_DH

Tirelessly Awesome
Jan 30, 2003
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Lima, Peru, Peru
well... i managed to negotiate a 15% increase over my then-current job, and jumped ship to Mercedes-Benz.

its been close to a year, and, I could not be happier with the decision.
i work with a very high quality product, with a great team of people,
the germans at MB are extraordinarily organized when it comes to support (and ridiculously hard negotiators, which makes for some pretty intense weeks) and the company goals and culture are mostly in line with my personal work/business ethics (as in long term gain> short term profit) in business and "saturdays are for riding bikes" ethos of my dept.
 

ALEXIS_DH

Tirelessly Awesome
Jan 30, 2003
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Lima, Peru, Peru
Sprinter 4x4... :drool:
We sell those here. Trying one was a bit anti-climatic.

In cusco, I've ridden in 4x2 sprinters in places where "sane" americans/europeans wouldnt even Drive in a lifted 4x4.
Just slap some mt tires, keep some momentum and feather the throttle and hope the differential makes At least one tire claw its way up.

Only places i'd think the 4x4 makes sense is deep sand, líquid mud. Its far too long between axles for serious offroading.

They are about $100k btw.

Now, the mercedes Benz vario 4x4 is a whole different beast.....
 
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ALEXIS_DH

Tirelessly Awesome
Jan 30, 2003
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Lima, Peru, Peru
now going for 3 years at Mercedes-Benz. pretty happy so far.

things I´ve learn at age 33.

not dreading going to work every morning > money.
good team of people > money
good boss > money
lunch time naps and having lunch with family everyday > money
saturdays = time for kiddos, and if there is anything left, for bikes. absolutely not for work.
business trips to germany with a few days off to wander around europe and ability to borrow MBs > money
learning stuff at your job everyday > teaching people how to run a company

extra money can be made outside of your job, even if the job isnt the best paying one you can get... the quality of life afforded by a job where you are happy, cannot be replaced.
 

kazlx

Patches O'Houlihan
Aug 7, 2006
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After 10 years at my current position, I just turned down another position. It was pretty tempting, but the commute (although flexible) was going to be a biatch. Quite a few things have been better at my current place in the last 6 months to a year. Prior to that, I would have jumped ship no questions. Leaving a pension isn't a light decision.

Good for you man, always good to enjoy your job. Or at least not hate it.
 

jdcamb

Tool Time!
Feb 17, 2002
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Nowhere Man!
Take it anyways. Being over your head for indiscriminate periods of time is good for you. My failures have always led to successes. Always.
 

Em_Ef_Er

Chimp
Nov 21, 2015
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Connecticut
This post is so relevant for me right now. I'm a CNC machinist at a gun manufacturer and just interviewed for a position with a major aerospace company in my area. The good outweighs the bad where I'm at now, but long term this other company has the resources that will benefit me professionally. Both are union shops, but night & day with pay and company culture. Decisions, decisions....