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Michelin Wild Grip'r 2 Advanced Reinforced 2.35 Review

djjohnr

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I just posted this as a reply on MTBR, and thought some folks on here might be interested.

I've been meaning to write a full review, but I have no time. So a quick summary for the 2.35 Advanced Reinforced.

- About bike/rider: I have these mounted on an 07 Giant Reign X. I climb because I have to in order to get to the descents, but I really only care about how fast I can get down the trail. I like my trail bikes to ride like my DH bike.

- These are much beefier then the non reinforced versions: bigger/thicker knobs and a much thicker casing.

- Mount up tubeless just fine with a floor pump on Flows. They held air with just soapy water overnight. No burps in two months using 1.5 scoops of Stans.

- I usually run DHF 2.5 EXOs when it's dry. This winter I also ran Dirty Dans F/R as well as Dirty Dan F/Muddy Mary R.

- The 2.35 Grip'r 2 has the most predictable drift characteristics I've come across in the dry, previously this was the DHF for me. Absolute cornering grip is a little less, but I'm noticeably faster in corners because I completely trust throwing the bike into a drift at higher speeds. This may be due to the side knob design - if you take a look at them, the have a crease (not really sure if you can call it a sipe) part way down the outside edge that appears would cause the knob to have progressive "give" characteristics. Other tires do this by having two different types of sideknobs, but the effect is similar.

- It corners well in the wet and loam as well (better then the DHF or Mary), likely due to the height of the side knobs. Thankfully those side knobs are also nice and thick.

- The only place I've lost control in the past two months is grass covered mud.

- Braking is about the same as a DHF, nothing to write home about.

- There are no extended root sections or rock slabs around me, so I don't know how these do on wet roots/rocks.

The best description of the Grip'r2s I can give is that they feel surfy when cornering, like slashing a pow turns on a snowboard, but on hard pack. I love these tires. They've replaced my DHFs in all but slop conditions where the Dirty Dan is still my choice. The sidewalls are thick enough that I'll be tempted to throw them on my DH bike if a situation comes along where I know I'll be doing a ton of pedaling.
 
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dump

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Oct 12, 2001
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Cool, thanks for the review. Where did you pick them up?
 

Sandwich

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Cool, thanks for the review. Where did you pick them up?
I agree.

I love minions for their all out grip but sometimes I want something a little driftier. I actually enjoyed DHRs for that reason. They were just super predictable for me.
 

Jeremy R

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Yep, good review man. I think these are the grippiest tires that Michelin has ever made. My first experience with them was at a really muddy night DH race back in January. I realized right away, I did not have to worry about traction, and was jumping into wet root sections on my second run. In the wet, they grip like a comp 16 or a Muddy Mary, but they clear mud better, and they grip great in the dry without any problems with the knobs folding over. These tires are great, but they are basically 2.35 DH tires with a kevlar bead. They weigh 950 grams and have a bombproof casing with big grippy blocky knobs.
And Tomasis, that 680 gram 2.25 tire is totally different then the 2.35 reinforced tire. The 2.25 tire is a big volume fast rolling trail tire. It is actually what I have on my bike right now, but it is no where near as grippy as the 2.35. I am saving those for small bike DH races.
Here they are in action:

 

djjohnr

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djjohnr

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Also, is it a real 2.35" or sized more like maxxis?
~ Maxxis 2.5. 58mm at the knobs, 52mm at the casing *(measured with a ruler, not calipers)

2.35 Grip'r II on Flow



2.35 DHF on Flow, 2.4 HRII on 721, 2.7 DHF on 325, 2.4 Ardent on Rhyno XL

 
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Tomasis

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what do you suggest for tire choices? I have thought have two pairs of Nobby Nic and Hanf Dampf Gravity. Save HD for downhill, harder tracks.

now I think why not buy three WildGripR, front- reinforced, rear - 2.1 non advanced, maybe 2.0 for easier trails, for acceleration's sake then switch to 2.3 reinforced rear for burlier tracks. Having them as UST might be tricky if I change them often. Maybe 50€ inner tube from Schweiz (forgot name) might be solution :p Stick with UST as front wheel if heavier tire doesnt bother me, even if generally front tire deals with less pressure compared to rear so single ply could be enough. For Dh, I ran Muddy Mary single ply 2,5 front and Big Betty dh dual ply in rear. It held up well.

Id like to have 600gram and 1kg pairs to switch between.

Im riding from light am to hardcore enduro with Rune V2
 
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djjohnr

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Update-

It's getting really dried out on my local trails now, with talcum powder dust accumulations on the hard pack, and these tires are starting to feel sketchy if you touch the brakes at speed in the dusty sections. Off the brakes they're fine, but I may need to go back to DHFs for these conditions.

Follow up - Switched back to DHFs for a few rides, I had false memories of how they used to perform for me. Going back to the Wildgrip'rs.
 
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djjohnr

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Update - tried out a DHR2 2.3 EXO TR out back this week. Main goal was to cut some weight. Local trails are uber dry hardpack with blasted corners. Compared to the Wildgrip'r it lets go earlier and more suddenly. I'll keep it around for days with lots of climbing, but I really wish Michelin would make a slightly narrower version of the Wildgrip'r 2 tire (with same tread and sidewalls as the 2.35 Reinforced) to drop weight.
 
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frgeoff

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djjohnr - i read some of your comments, thanks for posting good info. I have a stack of tires big enough to make my wife freak out. DHF exo is my go to tire but mine are shot and need to order some new rubber. before i order more DHF exos im tempted to try wild gripr2 advanced or wild rockr 2

http://www.pinkbike.com/news/Michelin-Wild-RockR-2-Enduro-Tire-first-look.html

at this point, what is your #1 favorite all-mountain combination front and rear - for loose, dusty/dry rocky conditions (south mountain, pheonix)? i dont really have a problem with weight around 900grams
 
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djjohnr

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I share the same tire affliction, and my wife loves it just as much :D

I haven't tried the Michelin's in really dusty decomposed rock conditions yet. I wouldn't hesitate to give them a shot, but keep in mind the tread isn't as open as a DHF, so you may get more float in the deep stuff at mach stupid.

djjohnr - i read some of your comments, thanks for posting good info. I have a stack of tires big enough to make my wife freak out. DHF exo is my go to tire but mine are shot and need to order some new rubber. before i order more DHF exos im tempted to try wild gripr2 advanced or wild rockr 2

http://www.pinkbike.com/news/Michelin-Wild-RockR-2-Enduro-Tire-first-look.html

at this point, what is your #1 favorite all-mountain combination front and rear - for loose, dusty/dry rocky conditions (south mountain, pheonix)? i dont really have a problem with weight around 900grams
 

Samoto

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i got two michelin wildgrip2 (1kg each) for enderpo. they look nice and beefy. Deja vu feeling from Comp16/32 times.

Anybody tried that combo and compare with wild rock2 in front and grip2 as rear?