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New Demo?

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Turbo Monkey
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tweener. what else could it really be?

i wonder if we'll get any info on the ohlins boxxer internals before fort bill as well...
 

Trekrules

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I don't think they said about a new demo according to Warner,they said a new DH bike at Fort William
 

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Demo replaced by Status.

Marketing nightmare as demo sounds like a prototype meanwhile Status is the top dog.
 

Udi

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How do Specialized even have time to design new bikes?

I can only imagine the magnitude of legal team required to deal with the amount of companies currently using the word "enduro" in products without their permission.
 

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Status sounds like a Walmart bike trying to make poor kids feel good
it gave me idea that the magnitude of marketing team in Specialized figured out that youngsters who cannot afford fancy 9000$ Demo would buy Status budget bikes because that fancy word is convincing enough.

Whatever you buy from Specialized, you will feel good! It is a specialized item after all and you feel as specialist when you touch saddle of the bike. :thumb:
 

Da Peach

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I don't think I've ever seen a status outside the shop, in the flesh.

A fine bike, I'm sure, but have they sold one yet?
 

ritche

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spez new dh bike, is the enduro evo 7 inch park bike,
they just need to drop the word "enduro" to be legit as a WC dh proven/tested race bike.

*is it correct? the name demo is from the demo forest near spez HQ?

Why the ohlins tie up with rock shox?
They have already sold rear shox with spez bikes, why not make their own, dh fork?

Is it because the current world cup spez riders were on fox (gwin, tb) and rockshox (mitch R.) Ohlins wants to test it now at the current WC races?
 
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EVIL JN

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So then it is true the Demo isnt capable of getting to the top step of a wc? I mean the Gwinominator could only get it by tapping into the enduro power....
 

mattmatt86

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I don't think I've ever seen a status outside the shop, in the flesh.

A fine bike, I'm sure, but have they sold one yet?
I've seen a ton at local DH races on the east coast. For a season or two it seemed like the bike of choice for Groms. I'm pretty sure the Shaw Brothers won about 104903 races combined on tricked out Statuses (stati?)

Le Bike Cheque
 
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EVIL JN

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Totally impossible




Don't even try.
For anyone that is not named Sam Hill that is?;)

Seriously though, I had a 2011 Demo and good god it was a fun and easy to ride. Wonder what S have developed from it. A few less stays/pivots and more rearward travel would be high on my list
 
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kidwoo

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For anyone that is not named Sam Hill that is?;)

Seriously though, I had a 2011 Demo and good god it was a fun and easy to ride. Wonder what S have developed from it. A few less stays/pivots and more rearward travel would be high on my list
I had a 'last generation before the current' version and have ridden one of the current ones. I think this more than anything would benefit those bikes the most. It's not short chainstays that hurt them, it's short chainstays combined with with an early forward arcing axle path. You could screw with either to get it to hang up a little less. You know how good those bikes feel yanking out of tight corners on your rear wheel though. That is certainly NOT a design flaw for going fast.

I'm still not completely sold on the be all end all of rearward axle paths though. When you're going through successive hits that wheel is hitting things on the way down too. Any heavily rearward compression path is going to have a nasty forward rebound path wanting to hammer on your wheel.

I think if anything they just maybe need to mess with where in the travel that forward arc starts. Just move the chainstay frame mount pivot a little. That would lessen some of the total forward displacement too.
 
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norbar

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I'm still not completely sold on the be all end all of rearward axle paths though. When you're going through successive hits that wheel is hitting things on the way down too. Any heavily rearward compression path is going to have a nasty forward rebound path wanting to hammer on your wheel.
If it's on the rebound what's the problem? The bigger problem is when the axle path gradient changes rapidly and the chain goes from very stretched to very loose.

As for the Demo itself I think it's both of the things you have mentioned + the relatively long TT. They just need to find a way to bring the weight a bit more forward.

btw. since I'm not on my pc. Can anyone tell me where the IC on the demo ends up for the most part?
 

norbar

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Certainly not as bad as a compression hit out of nowhere but the wheel is moving forward as it hits something........the inverse of a forward axle path on compression.


That's all irrelevant though because I read in a specialized ad that FSRs have a completely vertical axle path :D
Well long time ago they claimed that the vertical axle path meant their bikes gained speed as they went over obstacles. The 12 year old me believed they invented a new kind of root and rock powered engine.
 

'size

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"Was Mitch Ropelato riding a 650B Specialized Demo at the Cairns World Cup? Judging by the lowers on his 2015 RockShox BoXXer, we're inclined to say yes. The 650B version of the fork features a greater fork offset and distinctive shape in the dropout area. What we're not sure about, however, is if the back of the bike was also sporting the larger wheel size... " - vital
 

supercow

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Sneaky sneaky Specialized - what better place to whip it out, when it's going to be entirely covered in mud? :D

Either that, or they wanted larger mud clearance, so sticking 650B forks on a 26" wheel seems like a good idea to me.
 
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