2015 Specialized Demo and Enduro Evo
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Not photoshop. I posted on MTBR, and got a pm from francois about taking them down.
Here are some on my fb page - https://www.facebook.com/TheBicycleGarage
Here are some on my fb page - https://www.facebook.com/TheBicycleGarage
Ah that sucks, I keep seeing the link which doesn't exist anymore, did the carbons demos get leaked too ?
The way Aaron was talking about a new bike I thought it was a complete redesign not just bigger wheels, unless there just teasing us until the later rounds of the world cup.
It may not look like it since it's the same general shape, but with how short the d8 chainstays are, how forward that axle path is, and trying to fit a 27.5 wheel in there........they completely redesigned the rear end
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It's not that forward. It's just not very rearward. There are some frames that are known for being rearward but in the last part of travel they are very forward (much more than the demo) but yeah, they have to do some serious redesigning for the 27.5.It may not look like it since it's the same general shape, but with how short the d8 chainstays are, how forward that axle path is, and trying to fit a 27.5 wheel in there........they completely redesigned the rear end
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so what's msrp on the s-works
complete? prob $10K
i speculated that in another thread, and some folks got butt hurt
It's like an inch forward. That's a lot when you're trying to cram another inch and a half of pure marketing bliss into a 16.5 chainstay.
Carbonz rimz? if so, $11.5ki speculated that in another thread, and some folks got butt hurt
Meh, I was really hoping they would take the front triangle of a 29er Epic and lash it onto a 650 Enduro rear triangle, then call it the Epic Enduro. Definitely have to staff up the legal department if/when that happens.
My point in the other thread is that the demo is currently their cheapest full suspension s-works bike.
The current demo is also cheaper than the trek 9.9, v10, etc.... And that does matter.
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The long-standing secret of the dirtbag downhiller market vs. dentists is finally out.
Hooray for my dh bike buying.
Shlt for my trail bike buying.
Grown ass men playing hero dress up.
Nothin sells quite like it.
Nothin sells quite like it.
i for one would wear a replica DH kit if it were a skinsuit.
Are you sure? I may have been looking at the older demo but I remember it went backward and forward very little and that was the reason they advertised FSR as having vertical axle path. An inch is a ton of forward movment. Will have to look that up when I'm back in home
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I bet you will clock a moar faster time with the upgrade to one of these than when you upgrade to the 650B Demo. 
You love zee skinsuit!
Thanks. Wow. That makes no sense given their marketing claims. Though they have said it a few years ago.
That main pivot is pretty low and rearward. It may not be a full inch but it sure as shlt ain't 'vertical'.
Haha that reminds me of the "S"
path that VPP supposedly followed back in the day. Don't you love the bike industry?
I thought the patent mentioned it (either as a feature or as a 'necessary byproduct') as something essential to the function. I know the dh bikes had kind of a neutered version but didn't the trail bikes actually have an S-like path?
It's the kind of thing Udi would know but he was like 13 at the time, and taking internet mountain biking WAY too seriously.......
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I now respectfully offer to film JoeG riding the same section of sharp rocks on a specialized demo, and then a canfield Jedi. Or a foes dhs and then a single pivot turner dhr. Same shocks if possible. The stipulation being that we can only discuss what is shown in video.
Come on Joe, where are ya?
Good to see him address the claimed S shape of the old V10. I think even at the time everyone was even calling that one a partial S. That was back when specialized bikes were "completely vertical" so there was certainly worse.
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those 3 have the same shock rate, or are we comparing different axle paths with different shock rates at the same time?I now respectfully offer to film JoeG riding the same section of sharp rocks on a specialized demo, and then a canfield Jedi. Or a foes dhs and then a single pivot turner dhr. Same shocks if possible. The stipulation being that we can only discuss what is shown in video.
Come on Joe, where are ya?
Good to see him address the claimed S shape of the old V10. I think even at the time everyone was even calling that one a partial S. That was back when specialized bikes were "completely vertical" so there was certainly worse.
YES!! Damn dude, that was quick.
Totally different I'm sure.
But it'll be those sweet sweet hips I'll be focusing on. I tried to pick some widely varying models to go to each end of the spectrum...... That should reduce the effect of leverage rates since they's REAL different. Science!
Totally different I'm sure.
But it'll be those sweet sweet hips I'll be focusing on. I tried to pick some widely varying models to go to each end of the spectrum...... That should reduce the effect of leverage rates since they's REAL different. Science!
I'm pretty sure we can find a bikes that could be used for Kidwoos example. I remember that k9 guy that wrote for dirt mag (Louis Arraiz if I remember right) claiming the shock rate on 2010 demo and Empire Ap-1 is fairly similar. The axle path isn't.
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As soon as I can figure out what that is, I'm on it!*
*not really, don't respond to this, I'm not buying dh frames to do this
There you go....As soon as I can figure out what that is, I'm on it!*
*not really, don't respond to this, I'm not buying dh frames to do this
And once again norbar proves he's pretty valuable at knowing some obscure random shlt that no one cares about...........but is surprisingly relevant to whatever point he's trying to make once you figure out what he's talking about.
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can we get back to discussing skinsuits now?
I was actually trying to help you prove the point you tried to prove but yeah I'd be curious how 2 bikes with similar leverage, same shock and specs but different axle path ride.And once again norbar proves he's pretty valuable at knowing some obscure random shlt that no one cares about...........but is surprisingly relevant to whatever point he's trying to make once you figure out what he's talking about.
It looks like they've set themselves up solidly for another apology article in the future.