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Adventurous

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So I'm trying to arrange to get a bundle of tools from MA to CO and it seems like the only option is either fly back and drive out or arrange for freight shipping. I have a quote for ~$1,100 for a palletized load of 750lbs. Having never shipped anything freight I'm not sure if that's what I should be expecting or if it sounds high. Anyone know? Or have any reasonable alternative solutions?
 

stevew

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one way from denver to boston is 150 on orbitz....plus what you are driving back out to colorado.......colorado to massachusetss....1900+ miles....assuming your driving a truck back out.....mpg and tanks of gas...
 

Adventurous

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What is the value and do you have a loading dock or a way to get it in the truck?
The value of the pallet will be somewhere in the $2500 range. It is several tool boxes with quite a few tools in them. I also have a few miscellaneous tools that would be packed onto the pallet as well. I'm guessing it would need to be forked into whatever truck it was being transported on. I could always have it delivered to me here at work and have someone take it off and drop it on a trailer.
 

jimmydean

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One pallet? That seems insane. I paid $350 to have one pallet around 400# shipped form Minnesota to Oregon. I saved $50 by having it shipped to work where I could use the dock to unload. It was a couple years ago, but that seems a bit crazy to me. I would say up to $800 maybe insured, but I haven't priced it lately.

I know the last quote on an engine/trans setup was less than $400 coast to coast (one pallet @ 1000ish lbs).
 

Adventurous

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One pallet? That seems insane. I paid $350 to have one pallet around 400# shipped form Minnesota to Oregon. I saved $50 by having it shipped to work where I could use the dock to unload. It was a couple years ago, but that seems a bit crazy to me. I would say up to $800 maybe insured, but I haven't priced it lately.

I know the last quote on an engine/trans setup was less than $400 coast to coast (one pallet @ 1000ish lbs).
Who do you ship through? The $1100 was from Transit Systems.
 

jdcamb

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Benchmark: Call Fedex freight and see how much they will do it for you. About $850 with proper insurance. Then look up a freight expediter in MA. I just shipped a 2800# Pizza oven to Sacramento from NJ for $1010. Inside to inside.
 

jimmydean

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I just shipped a 2800# Pizza oven to Sacramento from NJ for $1010. Inside to inside.
I would never move to Sacramento, it would have been cheaper to keep that pizza oven.

"Free pizza oven with purchase of a small Coke." - Mitch
 

jdcamb

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I would never move to Sacramento, it would have been cheaper to keep that pizza oven.

"Free pizza oven with purchase of a small Coke." - Mitch
Vintage Pizza Ovens go for huge bucks. I can buy them in the NY/NJ area and ship them to the West Coast for almost double of what we pay for them.
 

Toshi

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Three thoughts, all the same kind of thing:

ABF U Pack
PODS
U-Haul's U-Box
 

jimmydean

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Vintage Pizza Ovens go for huge bucks. I can buy them in the NY/NJ area and ship them to the West Coast for almost double of what we pay for them.
I would drive hours for a pizza made in a real oven, the conveyor belt garbage sucks! There is a food cart with a real wood fired oven that makes a damn good pie, though.
 

jdcamb

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I would drive hours for a pizza made in a real oven, the conveyor belt garbage sucks! There is a food cart with a real wood fired oven that makes a damn good pie, though.
I make the best pizza you have ever had in your life. From a bread hearth. I have never had a pizza from a conveyor belt. Even the chains around here have great pizza. I could never live more then a couple of blocks away from good pizza or a bakery.
 

maddog17

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partly what Toshi said. PODS is expensive. my buddy moved from MA to FL and his pod cost him almost $3k. ABF may be a good try, or even a moving company if your not in a hurry they may be able to pack your stuff on with other stuff going in the same direction. FED EX and UPS freight will be pricey since you probably don't ship with them on a regular basis, they tend not to give discounts out for one time shipments. you can try these guys http://www.mybluegrace.com. they are a logistics company i've used in the past. they use multiple carriers so you can usually get a good deal
 

AngryMetalsmith

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I've been looking at table saws lately and to ship a 400 pound saw costs $250. Granted online stores get a volume discount on shipping but you should be able to get a reasonable price. I think they wanted $750 to ship all the machines to equip a woodshop and that's a whole lot more weight that your pallet.

Call a wood working store and ask them who they use.
 

Beef Supreme

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So I'm trying to arrange to get a bundle of tools from MA to CO and it seems like the only option is either fly back and drive out or arrange for freight shipping. I have a quote for ~$1,100 for a palletized load of 750lbs. Having never shipped anything freight I'm not sure if that's what I should be expecting or if it sounds high. Anyone know? Or have any reasonable alternative solutions?
It depends on how big it is but that sounds really high. Using Fed-Ex freight as a base line is not a bad idea but I usually end up at around 60% of what they would charge me. The problem is that you have to set up a credit account with most forwarders.

You might try Lynden. They are pretty good for out of the ordinary stuff that other companies don't want.
 

Adventurous

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I'll keep searching around. Right now the low quote is $1100 through Transit Systems and the high quote is $2200 through FedEx freight. I would imagine the pallet shouldn't be more than 48" x 48" x 48". It has to hold a 40" wide rolling toolbox, the corresponding top, and some miscellaneous other tools like a skil saw and router..
 

jdcamb

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Fly me to Denver $281. Rent me a Uhaul truck $1100. I deliver tools to your door from their door. I have a places to stay in Denver, KC, Pittsburgh. and Boston.
 

Droptopchevy

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That quote seems like a lot. I get full truckloads (53') from Long Beach to Philadelphia for around that price. 24 pallets give or take and about 600lbs. per pallet. Get a few quotes from LTL companies. $1100 seems like a direct dedicated load from MA to CO.
 

maddog17

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class 92.5 sounds high for tools. your skid size and weight is good enough to be classed lower. personally i'd ship it as class 85 and no more, if you wrap the skid nicely i'd even push it down into the 70's
 

maddog17

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That quote seems like a lot. I get full truckloads (53') from Long Beach to Philadelphia for around that price. 24 pallets give or take and about 600lbs. per pallet. Get a few quotes from LTL companies. $1100 seems like a direct dedicated load from MA to CO.
full truckloads are a much different story than shipping only one skid
 

jdcamb

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Please explain shipping classes to the ignorant.
As a retired teamster I feel immensely qualified to explain shipping to you. If I accidentally explain to much to you I can also have you beaten with a bat by someone even more qualified to explain things related to shipping and our wonderful pension fund. So what do you want to know?
 
The National Motor Freight Traffic Association (NMFTA) created a freight classification system for all types of commodities to standardize freight pricing. This freight classification, including definitions of classes, is cataloged with National Motor Freight Classification tariff, commonly referred to as the NMFC.

Freight classifications are based on four characteristics:
  • Density: The weight per cubic foot.
  • Freight Stowability: The length and width based on carrier mode rules.
  • Ease of Handling: Evaluation of the care involved in transporting.
  • Liability: This includes the freight price per pound, susceptibility to theft, liability to damage, breakability and perishability.
 
From an inexperienced perspective:

Seems to me that if you took the time to build a sturdy wooden crate on top of the pallet with sufficient internal cribbing to keep your stuff from shifting in transit, it'd increase stowability & ease of handling. Depending on the total value of what you're shipping, liability might be what's driving your classification up.

jdcamb: Hilarie used to be a teamster...
 

Adventurous

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From an inexperienced perspective:

Seems to me that if you took the time to build a sturdy wooden crate on top of the pallet with sufficient internal cribbing to keep your stuff from shifting in transit, it'd increase stowability & ease of handling. Depending on the total value of what you're shipping, liability might be what's driving your classification up.

jdcamb: Hilarie used to be a teamster...
That's the plan. My dad will take a pallet and build a nice sturdy crate that will keep everything in place. Time to get some more quotes!
 

maddog17

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I don't know if anyone fully understands freight classification, I just understand some basics to it and roll the dice with what I classify some of my freight going out. but i'll usually call to see what the freight company would class it at