My standart is their French roast; guess I'll have to try the Yosemite iff'en I can find it east.
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Wegmans ftw
Espresso. I buy it from places I like.
Tried a cold brew and hated it.
Tried a cold brew and hated it.
This is the shit. And strong. Peet's in general is my favorite, but just tried this one on my trip
Deep roast meaning it's darkly roasted? Dark roasts are unhealthy as fuck. It's basically the equivalent of ordering a well done steak.
@mandown - it's so easy to use the wrong coffee for cold brew. I still wonder how popular light roasting is in the US. You have a strong coffee culture but I don't hear about light roasting that much on us forums.
lol yeah the local nickname for starbucks is Charbucks.
I know they roast their beans in yurp in a roaster for peanuts because no coffee roasting machine is big enough.
Also they burn them to hell so you can taste the coffee from under a gallon of milk.
Let's see, you're doing all this fussy brewing crap and you pollute the coffee with milk? 
Who claimed that? I'm saying starbucks roasts it darkly because it's the only way you will feel there is some coffee under that milk.Let's see, you're doing all this fussy brewing crap and you pollute the coffee with milk?
I drink my coffee with no sugar and no milk. No need if you have a light roast. You should be able to taste the fruits in coffee.
I'll think about that as I enjoy my French roast.
I seriously encourage you to visit a coffee shop that has light roasts. When you find a good lightly roasted coffee you never go back. Seriously I don't know one person who went to darkly roasted coffee. Some who like it a bit dry and bitter just went with natural instead of washed coffee.
A local restaurant that I frequent stopped serving dark roast. I quit drinking coffee there and get fruit juice instead.
I'm yet to meet a restaurant that makes good coffee. Even michelin starred restaurants usually serve crap so that's a bad example. A good coffee shop that makes and grind you fresh coffee. I know everyone in America is used to cheap, old robusta beans, it's the same in Poland so everyone thinks coffee should be dark and bitter and shitty coffees (Italians with their constant nagging that their shitty coffee is best don't help the matter) trying to ride the trend of third weave coffee don't help but it's really worth a try.
The best way would be to visit Oslo, Stockholm, Berlin or now even Warsaw but I'm pretty sure it's not that hard given the world barista championship took place in Seattle in 2015. Even if that's the shittiest discipline of all coffee competitions.
btw. Most roasts labeled as light in starbucks and big brands (any brand that doesn't give you a roast date) are actually medium roasts.
It's counter-intuitive, but light roast is unhealthy as fuck.
http://www.healwithfood.org/articles/coffee-acrylamide-levels.php
Also coffee is only like well-done steak in that it has PAHs, it doesn't contain HCAs like high-temp cooked meat products. Meat products do not have a problem with acrylamide like coffee does.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0023643812003519
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0023643812003519
Girl Scout Cookie Coffe Mate.
The well done steak was a taste comparison. If coffee is darkly roasted you don't taste the coffee you taste the roast. It kills the taste profile. That is why it's the same as a well done steak. A well done steak also could be done from shitty meat and you wouldn't notice. It's the same with dark roasts.
As for your sources man the study was done by NESTLE. So of course it's in their interest to claim dark roast is equal or better because roasting beans dark allows them to buy cheaper coffee and roast them with less care. You could cherry pick the marigns of what is treated as light and dark roasting. I'm yet to meet a high level coffee roasting/brewing class that supports those claims. I trust people who work with coffee more than random corporate sponsored research.
Also during the proces of roasting with dark roasts you loose many beneficial acids, proteins, anti-oxidants.
Remember that world roasting championship hasn't been won by a dark roast yet.
The FDA analysis found the same thing and there was no partnership with Nestle there. There's more carcinogens in light roast coffee but instant coffee (which Nestle should favor since only the mass-market favors it) is the worst in that regard than either ground roast style. I trust scientists more than stupid coffee hipsters.
With PAHs there's no correlation with roast type. Flavor doesn't have correlation with how healthy something is either.
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The thing is those people are usually rather old and have been in the industry for ages but it's good to assume it's another silly barista doing porn on the side. I trust people who read more about it than me and spend a bit more time with it than a simple google search.
As for flavor I was talking about pure flavor, don't care about health. The coparison with steak was for pure flavour sake. Any food that is burned tastes the same. Ie like coal. I really don't want to argue about health and sorry for bringing it up since none of us is really qualified here. I've read conflicting studies about carcinogens in coffee and we would probably have to read the methodology to see what's the differenciating factor there.
I'd rather talk about taste. I know it's subjective but i still don't get why you are so convinced that dark roast is the only way to go.
I stated that it's more healthy since you incorrectly stated that. I don't think dark is the only way to go and never said it was. Just like beer, wine, pot, cheese, whatever peoples tastes are personal with regional influences and tend to follow trends from so-called connoisseurs/experts.
Like HAB I can't drink much coffee because of heartburn (I have EE, and started having problems with heartburn in the summer of 2001). I like coffee and other foods and beverages with caffeine in them, but they don't like me. Supposedly there's some new steroid treatment I can take for it, but not sure if I want the roids yet.
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I drink my dark roast and medium roasts black, I personally find it is the water to grounds ratio that makes the biggest difference. BUT, what the fuck are you talking about unhealthy coffee? I consider myself fairly health educated and now must do more research. I looked up this Acrylamide crap and it looks like it is only in foods cooked above 120 degrees (F). Are the medium/light roasts roasted at a lower temp, or just less time?
If you read the thread, you find that's a false assumption. Light roasts, especially instant, have higher levels, not lower levels:
Light roasts do have more flavors and antioxidants like norbar mentioned, but they also have more acrylamide. Nobody has studied antioxidants levels in coffee vs carcinogens as far as which is more important. Basically you will have to go with personal flavor preference, since coffee is protective against certain diseases but bad for others like many foods and drinks with mixed messaging (and they also depend on dosage etc etc).
http://www.foodnavigator.com/Science/Reducing-coffee-s-acrylamide-may-also-hit-flavour-antioxidants
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'Tis available to all coast lines: http://www.peets.com/yosemite-dos-sierras.html
I did read, I just get confused by all the jibber jabber
The article you found was helpful. I'm just going to keep drink the coffee that tastes decent. No beuno on the instant coffee for backpacking though!Right, I edited my comment above, flavor is the best way since there are health impacts and benefits depending on the diseases (and dosage) in question.I did read, I just get confused by all the jibber jabber
Fights some cancers, does nothing for others, might be bad for some:
Might be bad for blood pressure and cholesterol (especially without paper filters) but generally good for cardiovascular disease.
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Called in sick today. Bums me out because I like the coffee at the shop by my office.
^^Bummer!
So, coffee, like microwaves and non-organic produce, causes cancer. Got it.
Non-coffee alternatives? Carcinogenic or otherwise--go! (Always curious what there might be...)
So, coffee, like microwaves and non-organic produce, causes cancer. Got it.
Non-coffee alternatives? Carcinogenic or otherwise--go! (Always curious what there might be...)
Some cancers, not all and it depends on various factors. Just drink the more good coffee in moderation and you'll be ok or even be better off. This is true for some indulgences, but not all (all in moderation is a dumb saying)^^Bummer!
So, coffee, like microwaves and non-organic produce, causes cancer. Got it.
Non-coffee alternatives? Carcinogenic or otherwise--go! (Always curious what there might be...)
There's a huge difference between that charbucks crap and a reputable coffee roaster who does dark roasts. There's plenty of Sumatra's around that you can taste the flavor of, similar to a lighter roast.
A big reason why a lot of people's coffee doesn't taste very good is due to most people brewing with a shitty coffee maker. If you are going to brew at home and want simplicity, you should drop some $$$ and pickup a Technivorm or maybe a Bonavita that brews at a high enough temperature.
Re: lighter roasts - One of the best tasting coffee's I've ever had was the Ethiopian Yirgacheffe from Armeno.
^^What are you doing to that coffee?!?! 
drip maker died. couldn't be fixed. recommend me a new one.
8 cup Softbrew ($53 with free shipping) instead of a dripper (makes hot or cold, works with various grinds (not just coarse like french press), easy to clean(three parts), eco-friendly(no paper filters), doesn't leach estrogenic compounds (no plastic):
http://www.amazon.com/Sowden-Oskar-SoftBrew-Coffee-Maker/dp/B003VUZNUS/
If you don't have a gas stove with a tea kettle (cheaper unless you have solar), an electric kettle along with it like:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008YE3RNG
Only thing that makes better coffee, IMHO, is the Aeropress but that doesn't help when you need to make lots at once and it leaches estrogenic compounds (BPA-free, but Tritan still leaches other estrogenic compounds and PP is often problematic too).
jtfc some days i swear you're illiterate.
i asked for a DRIP MAKER. Sometimes I have the need to make large quantities of coffee very quickly and easily. i've already got an aeropress, a presso, a siphon, and like 3 french presses.
jtfc, I said instead of a dripper and you didn't list off everything you have. You are illiterate.
i didn't ask for "instead of a dripper" shitlord
Everything causes cancer. Drink whatever coffee you enjoy and don't worry about all that (as you so eloquently put it) "jibber jabber"...^^Bummer!
So, coffee, like microwaves and non-organic produce, causes cancer. Got it.
Non-coffee alternatives? Carcinogenic or otherwise--go! (Always curious what there might be...)
Fucking BPA's killing my grandbabies.
Breeder... 