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SPD Shoes

ridea

Monkey
Oct 30, 2006
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south west of England
Looking for a new pair of spd shoes, generally use them for pretty aggressive all mountain stuff or occasional DH. I prefer the skate shoe style rather than disco slippers as I use them with mallets and plus I have quite wide feet which tends to lend itself better to skate type shoes. I previously had 661 launches but they're a bit heavy for all mountain and have pretty much disintegrated, so i'm looking for some replacements which are lightish and sturdy.

Budget wise options under 100GBP (not sure how that translates in the US) ideally i'd like to spend more like £50 but I don't think that will get me much so I'm willing to pay more for quality.

Cheers all
 
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ridea

Monkey
Oct 30, 2006
354
1
south west of England
i've heard good things about the shimano all mountain shoes (flat sole skate style). and 5.10 makes a few SPD compatible models.

5.10 has the raven on closeout on their website for $30 (USD) which is like 20GBP. granted they are white, but nothing some black shoe polish can't fix.

http://shopfiveten.com/P-4087110010041/Raven--White-Light.aspx
I had some DX spd's a while back, hated them, I'll have a look at those though see if they've improved.

I herd 5.10 ones fall apart, but they look good, can anyone vouch for their durability?
 

SDet

Monkey
Nov 19, 2014
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Boulder Co
510 minaars were on closeout not too long ago, I've got a season on mine, still oddly white. My friend retired his after quite a few seasons, and would have gotten another pair if they still had his size.
 

Gary

"S" is for "neo-luddite"
Aug 27, 2002
7,536
5,470
UK
if you think 661 Launch are heavy Shimano AM45s will feel like lead weighted diving boots.

interested in hearing about anything comparable to the old 661 Launches myself.
 

canadmos

Cake Tease
May 29, 2011
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Canaderp
I just picked up a pair of Five Ten Maltese Falcon Race shoes. They are a bit of a slipper style, with the large Velcro straps on the laces, but otherwise the 3-4 rides that I have on them have been pretty great.

They fit comfortably right off the bat, I didn't have to trim the sole for the cleats to work and they feel like they will protect my feet fairly well. I tried on a pair of Mavic shoes and while they fit well, they felt like there was almost no protection of the toes.

Also, I have very wide feet and have trouble finding new shoes (bike or regular shoes). These fit perfect, no issues at all.
 

Mo(n)arch

Turbo Monkey
Dec 27, 2010
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Has anyone expirience with the offerings from Giro?
Especially with the Jacket and Chamber offerings? They have a nice midtop version I'd like to try.
 

slyfink

Turbo Monkey
Sep 16, 2008
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Ottawa, Canada
I just did my maiden voyage yesterday on shimano's new "in between" shoes (in between a skate shoe and a xc-style disco slipper);the M-089

I was surprised at how well they worked. They are light, the cleat slot goes back more than I need, they are well armoured, and not too showy. The also walked well, as I scrambled up some rocks that were too steep to ride up.

I have wide toes, and a high-volume foot, and the wide version of the shoe fits very comfortably. I think it would work well for someone with a legit "E"- width foot.
 

canadmos

Cake Tease
May 29, 2011
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Has anyone expirience with the offerings from Giro?
Especially with the Jacket and Chamber offerings? They have a nice midtop version I'd like to try.
I'm not sure which ones they were, but I went to a bike shop and saw some Giro shoes. They felt too heavy for me to bother trying out. Heavier than my friends old FiveTen Impacts.
 

-C-

Monkey
May 27, 2007
296
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I just picked up a pair of Five Ten Maltese Falcon Race shoes. They are a bit of a slipper style, with the large Velcro straps on the laces, but otherwise the 3-4 rides that I have on them have been pretty great.

They fit comfortably right off the bat, I didn't have to trim the sole for the cleats to work and they feel like they will protect my feet fairly well. I tried on a pair of Mavic shoes and while they fit well, they felt like there was almost no protection of the toes.

Also, I have very wide feet and have trouble finding new shoes (bike or regular shoes). These fit perfect, no issues at all.
These. For a more AM style shoe, these are by far the most comfortable I have used.

If you want something more XC slipper, but not a full on shiny disco slipper, something like a Specialized Rime is great too.

Other shoes I've tried that aren't so great; 5-10 Minnaar, Spec 2FO & Vans Warner SPD. They all suck.
 

ridea

Monkey
Oct 30, 2006
354
1
south west of England
Rhyme in my opinion is too slippery for me still! as is the shimano M-089

if you think 661 Launch are heavy Shimano AM45s will feel like lead weighted diving boots.

interested in hearing about anything comparable to the old 661 Launches myself.
Well I have old DX shoes which I hate but are definitely lighter than the launches so I'd have thought the AM would be even lighter no?

I just picked up a pair of Five Ten Maltese Falcon Race shoes. They are a bit of a slipper style, with the large Velcro straps on the laces, but otherwise the 3-4 rides that I have on them have been pretty great.

They fit comfortably right off the bat, I didn't have to trim the sole for the cleats to work and they feel like they will protect my feet fairly well. I tried on a pair of Mavic shoes and while they fit well, they felt like there was almost no protection of the toes.

Also, I have very wide feet and have trouble finding new shoes (bike or regular shoes). These fit perfect, no issues at all.
may be worth a shout for me as I share the same infliction - I herd 5.10 in general (much like my impact flats) are good for wide feet although id herd bad things about the spd offerings durability

Has anyone expirience with the offerings from Giro?
Especially with the Jacket and Chamber offerings? They have a nice midtop version I'd like to try.
I am also intrigued by these and whether they are just stamped by gwin or actually any good, anyone riden any/compared weights with specialized and 5.10's offerings?

I biught a pair of Specialized 2FO a couple of months ago. I'm really liking them. They feel a lot lighter than my previous pair of 661 Filters. Let's see if they hold on as well as my old ones.
I'd also like to hear more about these as they look pretty good
 

jonKranked

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Nov 10, 2005
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As much as I dislike special edd I have had good experience with their shoes. Xc shoes, but still. They are like 4 years old now with a shit load of miles on them and no issues.
 

slimshady

¡Mira, una ardilla!
I've only used them two days in a rocky environment, but I liked the protection they offer. I got to "kick" a rock the size of a mellon my front wheel sput Right into my foot. Clearly they aren't construction boots, but my toes came out flawless. On the other hand, it's been pretty rainy down there, and they are still holding well, even when leaving them muddy for a week. They don't do as well on wet rock as I'd like them, but it's nothing worrying like walking on ice.
 

slyfink

Turbo Monkey
Sep 16, 2008
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re 5.10s and wide feet. If my old Maltese Falcon's are anything to go by, that's a big negatory right there... quite narrow. they are also bricks that weigh a ton. And the sole is too soft, so that the cleat presses up into my foot causing quite a bit of pain within about 30 minutes of starting to ride. (I have Time X-Roc pedals, which have a small platform, so you would think this should not be a problem). I'm really bitter I bought them. So much so that I hesitate to sell them; I wouldn't want to inflict them on anyone else....
 

canadmos

Cake Tease
May 29, 2011
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FWIW there is two versions of the Maltese Falcon. Did you have the "normal" looking ones without the big Velcro straps?

I honestly have no complaints about mine. My feet suck and I resist buying new shoes because its so hard to find some that actually fit. These ones fit right off the bat and the toe box actually have room to spare, which is a rare thing these days.

I would say that they don't have the most stiff sole, but I don't think it is too bad. It allows for easy walking and hiking, but I cannot feel my pedals through the sole. Though, I do use Crank Brother Mallets which have a pretty large platform.
 

mtg

Green with Envy
Sep 21, 2009
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Denver, CO
I had a pair of the white/black Shimano DX shoes that I was a big fan of, and also had a pair of 5.10 Minnaars that were fantastic. The Minnaars lasted for a long time, with the only complaint being weight. They were replaced with the new Hellcat (the current gen), which is basically the same thing, albeit less venting/more water resistance, noticeably lighter but not quite as "high end". They're awesome.

With the handful of DH style, flat rubber soled shoes out there now at reasonable weights and stiff enough soles, I don't really see the point of getting the XC slippers, unless you're an XC racer.
 

Gary

"S" is for "neo-luddite"
Aug 27, 2002
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@ridea I don't weigh stuff but my AM45s are noticably the heaviest SPD shoes I've ever worn...
I use Launchs as my every day road SPD shoes and AM45s on my XC mtb so often wear both during the same day.

Never worn DXs unless you mean the original MX70 (also referred to as DX and from the BMX groupset in the 90s)

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Those ^^ were light.
 
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wood booger

Monkey
Jul 16, 2008
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the land of cheap beer
Be on the Specy 2FO's for almost a year now. They rock. Other than being dirty they show very little wear.

Sizing is weird in that the toe box is really big, like the shoes feel too big, but next size down and my toes were jammed in the front. Lots of room for toe wiggle!

The front bumper area is very robust and wraps around the sides. Excellent rock protection and durability. Lighter than the 5.10 Minaars they replaced, with a slightly stiffer sole (but still fine for walking).

Bets clip in "dh" shoes I have tried yet.
 

Metamorphic

Monkey
May 12, 2015
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177
Cackalack
I'd probably try and wait to see how the new Shimano ones will pan out

http://www.mbr.co.uk/news/product_news/shimano-shoes-2016-330110

+1.

I have been on AM45's for a few years. Absolutely love them. Will probably replace with a pair of the new AM9's when the need arises. This should has really turned me on to the idea of a complete lace-cover.

I will say I hope Shimano has some more color offerings. Not a huge fan of that cyan/blue. And the only reason I ride bikes is to look fashionable, so come on 'mano.
 

canadmos

Cake Tease
May 29, 2011
20,190
19,155
Canaderp
I honestly don't get it, why do 99% of clipless shoes come with so much Velcro as opposed to flat shoes?

I've come to like the Velcro on my new shoes, but it just looks goofy. Like, VERY goofy. Put in a few more lace holes and some quality laces and I'd be happy.
 

slyfink

Turbo Monkey
Sep 16, 2008
9,288
5,028
Ottawa, Canada
I honestly don't get it, why do 99% of clipless shoes come with so much Velcro as opposed to flat shoes?

I've come to like the Velcro on my new shoes, but it just looks goofy. Like, VERY goofy. Put in a few more lace holes and some quality laces and I'd be happy.
because laces, chains, and chainrings don't mix?
 

Metamorphic

Monkey
May 12, 2015
274
177
Cackalack
Most flat riders also have chains and chainrings :busted:

My previous pair of shoes had only laces. They never got caught in the chain.
Haha, yeah I don't know why there is a trend for clipless shoes to go with the covered laces/velcro.

What slyfink said holds for me though. Whether it's clipless or not, I am a fan of the velcro/lace cover setup. I've caught laces, ripped laces, had stick get shoved in the laces. Just not a fan of exposed laces. YMMV.
 

ridea

Monkey
Oct 30, 2006
354
1
south west of England
@ridea I don't weigh stuff but my AM45s are noticably the heaviest SPD shoes I've ever worn...
I use Launchs as my every day road SPD shoes and AM45s on my XC mtb so often wear both during the same day.

Never worn DXs unless you mean the original MX70 (also referred to as DX and from the BMX groupset in the 90s)

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Those ^^ were light.
nope im talking about these, still have them infact
 

ridea

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Oct 30, 2006
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hmm its looking like try some specialized or wait for the new shimano's, mind the less ridiculous looking/reasonably priced versions are pretty weighty still.

Has anyone tried the Giro chamber in low the version? Seem difficult to get hold of but on paper they look good.