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mtg

Green with Envy
Sep 21, 2009
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1,604
Denver, CO
No typo, 148 rear hub. 148 is taking over, so we're using 148 on all of the new models to move things back towards wheel interchangeability.
That being said, if you already have a bitchin' DH wheelset with a 157 rear hub, we can do that via special order on a GG/DH. All of the tooling exists.
 

HAB

Chelsea from Seattle
Apr 28, 2007
11,580
2,005
Seattle
How does the chainline work out with an 83mm BB and a 148mm hub? I've honestly lost track of all this boost shit and so on.

Does that mean that new Megatrails will be 148mm too?
 

mtg

Green with Envy
Sep 21, 2009
1,862
1,604
Denver, CO
Whoa, remember this part: "if you already have a bitchin' DH wheelset with a 157 rear hub, we can do that via special order on a GG/DH. All of the tooling exists."
 

jackalope

Mental acuity - 1%
Jan 9, 2004
7,596
5,894
in a single wide, cooking meth...
Personally, I think you guys are weak wristed bitches...I damn well guarantee I can forcefully milk a 150 hub into a Boost rear triangle. Few shots of bourbon, some axle grease (mainly to highlight my bulging guns) and maybe a medium sized pry bar. Easy peasy...

Dogboy can vouch for my mechanical "persuasiveness".
 

mtg

Green with Envy
Sep 21, 2009
1,862
1,604
Denver, CO
Personally, I think you guys are weak wristed bitches...I damn well guarantee I can forcefully milk a 150 hub into a Boost rear triangle. Few shots of bourbon, some axle grease (mainly to highlight my bulging guns) and maybe a medium sized pry bar. Easy peasy...

Dogboy can vouch for my mechanical "persuasiveness".
Getting a 150 hub in there is easy, it's the rotor alignment that you'd have to figure out.
 

StiHacka

Compensating for something
Jan 4, 2013
21,560
12,504
In hell. Welcome!
Why so much hostility? IMHO GG is a victim to this industry bullisht like us. Being a small vendor, they can't afford building frames that the larger market is moving away from.

Boycott SRAM instead.
 

SuboptimusPrime

Turbo Monkey
Aug 18, 2005
1,658
1,633
NorCack
@mtg: Props for going the extra mile to support older standards for those that want them. My guess is that the pitchforks are out mostly because people (me included) hoped that Boost would just go away and seeing you guys going that way merely confirms that all of us with 142 and 150/157 are fucked (when considering the larger MTB landscape) so we are projecting (misdirecting) our righteous indignation and shooting the messenger.

PS: I have a few 142 wheels (just got another set) so don't throw out your tooling for that either (ever).
 

Adventurous

Starshine Bro
Mar 19, 2014
10,261
8,767
Crawlorado
And cost and/or flex. Everybody seems to keep forgetting that you can order a GG/DH with 148 or 157, it's just apparently more fun on the internet to see "148" and get out the pitchforks.
I can't fault you guys for adopting 148. If that's the way the industry is shifting then you have no choice as a small manufacturer to do the same if you want to survive. I understand the implications of retaining tooling and offering special order solutions and the challenges it entails. On that front I can sympathize with you.
 

mtg

Green with Envy
Sep 21, 2009
1,862
1,604
Denver, CO
I can't fault you guys for adopting 148. If that's the way the industry is shifting then you have no choice as a small manufacturer to do the same if you want to survive. I understand the implications of retaining tooling and offering special order solutions and the challenges it entails. On that front I can sympathize with you.
Thanks. In this case, the tooling is actually relatively* easy, which is why we came out of the gate with the option of 157.

*Nothing in manufacturing is actually easy, some things are just less of a PITA than others.
 

Adventurous

Starshine Bro
Mar 19, 2014
10,261
8,767
Crawlorado
Thanks. In this case, the tooling is actually relatively* easy, which is why we came out of the gate with the option of 157.

*Nothing in manufacturing is actually easy, some things are just less of a PITA than others.
That's good to hear. Hopefully your process/tooling is designed such that the changeover and setup is relatively quick and painless. I often find that is the biggest challenge in switching between products when dedicated equipment isn't available.
 

rockofullr

confused
Jun 11, 2009
7,342
924
East Bay, Cali
Personally, I think you guys are weak wristed bitches...I damn well guarantee I can forcefully milk a 150 hub into a Boost rear triangle. Few shots of bourbon, some axle grease (mainly to highlight my bulging guns) and maybe a medium sized pry bar. Easy peasy...

Dogboy can vouch for my mechanical "persuasiveness".
I used to be in charge of bending steel road bike rear ends to fit single speed hubs when I was a wrench. Satisfying as fuck.
 

iRider

Turbo Monkey
Apr 5, 2008
5,648
3,089
I swear I'm the only person on the planet that actually has 150mm dh hubs. Not 157, 150
Nope, me too. But only after much resistance to this "new" standard because I still think a 135 x 12 with a single speed hub with 5-7 gears on is the way to go. Light, narrow and you can use a 73 mm BB and get less pedal banging in corners.
 

dcamp29

Monkey
Feb 14, 2004
589
63
Colorado
"Frame weights are within a half pound of the lightest competition, regardless of material..."

7.8 lbs. (3,538g) frame with hardware (size Medium, no shock)




did anyone else read this? I'm not hating on GG (I actually like the bikes), but it seems like total BS.

Last time I looked Session frames were right over 5 lbs with no shock. Not that they are the strongest, but still DH frame vs DH frame. http://www.sicklines.com/2015/04/07/2015-trek-session-9-9-dh-27-5-frame-details-reviewed-weights-detailed-frame-photos-and-more/
 

iRider

Turbo Monkey
Apr 5, 2008
5,648
3,089
And cost and/or flex. Everybody seems to keep forgetting that you can order a GG/DH with 148 or 157, it's just apparently more fun on the internet to see "148" and get out the pitchforks.
It is the 157 that got us to get the pitchforks as well. 135 mm quick release is where it is at. ;)