I'm at 175 llbs. and run rims with a 23.4mm inner width with 25 psi front (tubeless) and 28 psi in the rear (tube). Was running 25 in the rear until I dented the rim to the point it won't hold air set up tubeless. Occasional I feel something kind of squirrelly in a fast corner. But every time I've gone back and looked at the corner, there are drift marks. So maybe you are really cornering faster than you think ?
No, that would be more logical, but my experience with plus sized tires tells me it ain't worth the weight, and with my 29er I really wanted to keep the brotating weight way down. Plus, from what I understand, most of the "too narrow tire on a too wide rim" comes down to squaring off the tire profile, which is mostly a problem on certain tires.
It depends on the terrain you ride. My buddy who has the derby rims (i35 I think?) runs them with Hans Dampfs. We have lots of rocks and roots here with lots of up and downy twisty turny no-flow stuff locally. The wide rims at low pressure absorb lots of the medium roots and rocks, and that makes a pretty huge difference in rolling speed. He's a competent descender, however with this setup he can feel the rims ping off rocks and/or fold over in corners when things get fast. So he has to choose how to set up his tires: cushy for bump absorption, or harder for fast dh and cornering.
...(easy, i was just dreaming)...and found some interesting data on enve's site. For 2.4 to 2.5 tires, they recommend 30i. Check it out. It's a good read.Yes, RLY.
That's what I'm saying. You have to be a pro XCer to even be able to go down hill and not look silly. I watch these races and it's really sad.
Are you racing expert/pro? I'm racing at the highest level in this state. Don't kid yourself and think that you are all that because you can do a 3 foot drop. I would say in every discipline, road, DH, enduro, xc, cyclocross, the pros are pushing their equipment far harder than non-racers and lower level racers. Gaps and jumps that we usually do on our AM bikes, hitting on our XC hardtails with the seat all jacked up, and that's not even the rough stuff. Maybe it will be easier for you to swallow by saying "at the highest levels of competition", but plenty of the expert racers are not far removed from pros, besting them in some races.
I'm sure your a strava champion in your state.
They're on 4lb full suspension frames and bend if you get a rut wrong rims shod with paper thin tyres FFS!
There is one thing pros have on their side, and most of us mere mortals lack: finesse and technique. That's why Commencal and some other brands have a group of regular Joes testing their stuff. They found out Pros would go not hard enough on their equipment. Plus most of the elite level guys replace their shit way before they reach a critical failure point.
This.
well, many tires are now optimized to be run on wider rims, so you get a better pairing of tire and rim profile.
what set-up does he use?
not sure it,s a ghetto set-up he ran years back and just started using it again this season . I think he splits a tube and them sandwiches it between the rim and bead of the tire
Soooo... Ghetto tubeless? I ran my past trail bike that way. Suppossedly, it's harder to snakebite the side of the tire because of the extra cushion that layer of tube gives you. But in my experience, you can't drop the pressure as much as with a regular tubeless setup. Burping the tire gets easier because the tube prevents the tire bead from biting into the rim wall.
I'm just thinking about how tight my tires fit to my rims as is, then trying to keep the tube in place while putting them on, sounds like a job for a dude with 2 extra hands, I actually want to try it though seems if done right it could be very reliable for someone like me who doesn't corner well enough to be worried about the tires blowing off the rims as mentioned above as one of the cons
It is actually quite easy to mount. You start with a 20" tube that you inflate until it is big enough to go round your rim. Once the valve in the hole, you just splice the tube in the middle and all way round. Since the tube is smaller than your rims it will sit tight on the rim bead and around the rim. After that you mount your tire as usual but with the spliced tube between the tire and the rim off course. Don't forget the tire sealant
inflate and ride!
OP asked about trail riding, not DH?
The Syndicate are running quite wide rims now.
How do trail riders rate on the scale of 1 to Cat3 XC though?OP asked about trail riding, not DH?
