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How long chainstay should be at SAG point?


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troy

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it might be too early to tell, but how much are you thinking of selling these frames for? I friggen love em already
~2100USD with DVO Jade shock and worldwide shipping (UPS). Possible upgrade to CCDB/CCDB Air shock. We are testing those shock currently, to detemine which one fits better (air or coil). Most likely we will offer DVO Emerald or Manitou Dorado too (as a frameset for few hundred more).

Website will be up soon!
 

sikocycles

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HOO knows?

I have ridden couple of 29"ers this year and I kinda liked it. Kinda is the key word here, because suspension on those bikes sucked and geometry was not so great either (for DH use ofc). But the rollover abilities were there and I can see some potential. The problem is with the availability of proper DH tires and rims. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Maxxis makes its DHF in 29x2.5 with DH versions. I have them on my PBJ.
http://www.maxxis.com/catalog/tire-302-122-minion-dhf
 

sikocycles

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They are holding up great. Much better then the old WTB tires I was using. They do use Kevlar and the sidewalls are DH thickness.
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
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You got me! Actually DH02 will be an electric fat bike with a revolutionary 155mm bb shell standard and matching 12.7x155mm dropouts! 1:1 technology!11!11!
That would kinda make sense since contrary to popular belief Owls are very stupid ;)
 

troy

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Had some fun this weekend... Jesus christ, that frame rocks (rux???)! Absolutely amazing suspension action :rockout:
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OBB

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FYI just noticed your long upper shock pin and bolt. Highly likely that bolt (and pin) will bend. You might want to spec a steel 8mm ID pin, and upper the spec on the bolt.
 

troy

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FYI just noticed your long upper shock pin and bolt. Highly likely that bolt (and pin) will bend. You might want to spec a steel 8mm ID pin, and upper the spec on the bolt.
Thank you for your suggestion. Upper bolt is an 8mm dia. class 12.9 strength (1220 MPa min. - quenched and tepmered steel) stripper bolt. I had even longer one on DH01 and nothing happened to it for 2 seasons.
 
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Jm_

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FYI just noticed your long upper shock pin and bolt. Highly likely that bolt (and pin) will bend. You might want to spec a steel 8mm ID pin, and upper the spec on the bolt.
I've had a few bikes that had long pins like that. I bent every one of them no matter the spec. It was just too much leverage (lever arm). Hope it works out, but I did 12.9 and all that too.
 

troy

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I've had a few bikes that had long pins like that. I bent every one of them no matter the spec. It was just too much leverage (lever arm). Hope it works out, but I did 12.9 and all that too.
You had probably one of those bolts: DIN912


We use DIN7379 (internally threaded), where both ends are supported by the rocker links, so it doesn't bend on the threaded part like on DIN912 bolts:
 

troy

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Maybe I just missed an update, but what's going on with the EN01?
I'm working on the 3rd gen punkduro frame (much much lighter and stronger than the previous ones), as the previous ones were just too heavy imho (still way lighter than every other steel enduro frame on the market).

1st gen
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2nd gen
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3rd gen
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