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Another fork choice, Cane Creek joins the game

Jm_

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According to the picture, you get two forks, which is good, so one can be being serviced at CC all the time.
 

jackalope

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Man, I must be living right and tight with jeebus, even tho I didn't vote for the self-aggrandizing jack o'lantern this past fall. My bone stock 2015 Fox 36 has been superb, and every CC shock I've owned (4 and counting) has been exceptional. My previous 36 Float was easily the most sticky, shittily damped fork I've ever owned, the damper cart in my Pike exploded, the air spring in my 2014 32 exploded, and every Fox shock I've owned other than a RC4 has been garbage (i.e. stuck down and/or laughably terrible damping)...Would I gladly rock a new Fox X2 (coil or air) on any of my squish bikes, hell yes. Likewise, I'd love to give the Helm a whirl, especially based on my opportunity to poke around on one a month ago.

CC knows this product has to be exceptionally reliable, which is why they didn't rush it to market and apparently went with a more traditional damping system. Like Kranked said, its a bit of a bummer that its boosted, but I'd guess most hubs can be converted to boost with something like the Boostinator.
 
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jonKranked

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Like Kranked said, its a bit of a bummer that its boosted, but I'd guess most hubs can be converted to boost with something like the Boostinator.
in all honesty, it's a smart decision from a business / manufacturing standpoint as you can convert a non-boosted hub to boost, but not vice versa. so they technically have both covered with a single casting instead of 2. and castings are fvcking expensive.
 

Metamorphic

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in all honesty, it's a smart decision from a business / manufacturing standpoint as you can convert a non-boosted hub to boost, but not vice versa. so they technically have both covered with a single casting instead of 2. and castings are fvcking expensive.
Yerp. Also smart of them to make the internal travel adjust just a nice quick twist under the cap. No new parts. Means they can manufacture one fork set to one travel that can ship out to a customer for a DJ frame @ 100mm or a Slayduro frame @ 170mm. User can adjust, they don't need to stock any more parts or ever "only have the 140mm version in stock", just easy from both user and manufacturer perspective.
 

Jm_

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Cane Creek knows this product must be exceptionally reliable, which is why they didn't rush it to market and apparently went with a more traditional damping system.
They have this saying in Texas: Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice....can't get fooled again.

Meet the new boss.
 

SuboptimusPrime

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Aug 18, 2005
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Surprised at the level of animosity toward CC. I've had 3 CCDBa shocks and a CCDB coil and even an inline that have been great. I have detonated every fox air shock I've ever owned, usually within weeks of obtaining them. That said, my two 36 forks were/are great. Point being that I don't think any of the major suspension companies have been flawless and all of them have had a mix of good and bad products.

I got to take a short spin on a prototype and was really impressed by how supple yet supportive it was. Time will tell how things go from a durability standpoint but out of the box, this thing is pretty damned nice.
 

Westy

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Yeah I don't really understand but I believe @Electric_City fixed his 36 Talas III rc2 fit with vacuum-infused air, or "thinner air" so maybe Cane Creek or someone else could use the same technology in a new fork? They would have to license this V.A.G.I.N.A technology from @Westy though.
Been trying to get the V.A.G.I.N.A. on something with a head tube for a while, but suckas gotta pay up.
 

SuboptimusPrime

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Go read the My CC In-line Experience thread on mtbr and come back and tell me you are still surprised.
Asking someone to go read anything on MTBR is asking too much IMO. But I'll take your word that you had a very frustrating and unsatisfactory experience--we know that happened to a lot of people with Inlines. I understand where you're coming from but all I'm saying is that by that metric we should all hate every suspension manufacturer because all of them have released subpar and/or unreliable products at some point. By most accounts CC tried to take care of people affected (at least everyone I know personally) but I'm sure there were/are exceptions. It just seems like the anger directed at CC burns pretty brightly... But hey, this is teh intranets. What can we expect?
 

Electric_City

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A) The CC Inline was made by Avid. Hence a 50.1% success rate.

B) I had to use helium in my fork to get past the valve. This made my bike 1oz lighter. The helium in the tires though made the bike 2lbs lighter.

C) Trek sucks
 

atrokz

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Asking someone to go read anything on MTBR is asking too much IMO. But I'll take your word that you had a very frustrating and unsatisfactory experience--we know that happened to a lot of people with Inlines. I understand where you're coming from but all I'm saying is that by that metric we should all hate every suspension manufacturer because all of them have released subpar and/or unreliable products at some point. By most accounts CC tried to take care of people affected (at least everyone I know personally) but I'm sure there were/are exceptions. It just seems like the anger directed at CC burns pretty brightly... But hey, this is teh intranets. What can we expect?

Inline failed after a few months, rebuilt to the *new* spec under warranty. Season passed, so about another two moths or so of riding and shock failed again, with new blue seal, 'assembly clean room bullshit process', etc. No warranty, they offered to rebuild it (same old spec that's failing a lot of people) at their standard price. No thanks. I'll pay VS or Eastside to do it with the new spec stuff and sell it. It's not an outlier that these shocks failed, it's such a large % that a recall to update to the latest rev would have been the right thing to do. That POS shock left me stranded several kms in the wilderness, would have been nice to have been helped out. nope, pay up, suckers. CC has diminished their reputation with this shock. FWIW I also owned a CCDB that worked fine, but thats neither here nor there. It's hard for someone who burned a few hundred on a product that failed twice, left stranded, then not sorted out in the end, to support anything from that company again without seeing some serious improvements with how they deal with their failures.

This fork does look amazing, has some killer features, but lets see how it goes for the first year.
 
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