which one of these 3 tyres for rear use?

kidwoo · Jul 22, 2017

1. Yes the 2.4 is signficantly bigger than the 2.3. It's a winner

2. Kill yourself.

3. Kill yourself. But before you do that, see if Udi has any. That's his favorite tire ever and it really stirs a lot of heartfelt emotions for him.

mykel · Jul 22, 2017

The NN is a decent rear tire on a trail bike, I have one now, but when it is done, it is gone.
Would def not use on a big bike.

Of your choices, DHR2 all the way.

DHR2's are top of the list for when I need more tire than the Mich WildRockr2 I'm currently loving.

jstuhlman · Jul 22, 2017

dhr2GTFO

StiHacka · Jul 22, 2017

Slaughter?

Nick · Jul 22, 2017

jstuhlman said:
dhr2GTFO

boostindoubles · Jul 22, 2017

StiHacka said:
Slaughter?

I tried two of em and concluded that as long as the sidewalls held up I approved but the sidewalls leak goo like no tire I have ever seen. Trying the WTB Riddler 2.4 w/ the tough casing currently. Need more time to say yay or nay.

jonKranked · Jul 23, 2017

What kind of trails and riding? That's kind of sort of important.

jonKranked · Jul 23, 2017

High roller 2?

djjohnr · Jul 23, 2017

Where I live the trails are bone dry blown out clay; super slippery if you even look at your brakes funny (which is why I like all the modulation I can get out of my brakes). I have friends that love the Aggressors in the spring, then bitch about blown out trails in the summer. Personally I just run full meats front and rear, currently Magic Marys, since I know when I stuff them into a destroyed corner they'll usually hold.

jstuhlman · Jul 23, 2017

jonKranked said:
High roller 2?

that's what i run, but the grip in wet/mud is teh suck.

Flo33 · Jul 24, 2017

jstuhlman said:
that's what i run, but the grip in wet/mud is teh suck.

Rolling resistance too, immo.

slyfink · Jul 24, 2017

freeriding said:
What about a 2.3 dhf dual in the rear?

I read that it rolls better than the dhr2, good grip in all conditions, it's just a bit worse than dhr2 in braking.

given the use of Y to spell tyre, we can assume he's in the UK. given what the brits like to say about their riding, we can assume there's mud. DHF doesn't clear mud nearly as well as the DHR2.

Electric_City · Jul 24, 2017

A dhr2 c3 2.3 came on the back of my Spartan this year. I never thought it was possible to hate a tire so much. We ride on Conglomerate stone a lot around here. Picture broken concrete with jagged edges- some pebbles, some boulders the size of vehicles. My lines I've ridden for 10+ years can't be ridden the same way cause these tires SLIDE off of every damn rock they hit.

Don't hate me because of this... But Nevigals... Yes, Kenda Nevigals, handled better and more predictable than these POS tires.

I've never experienced a tire that slips off of a naturally jagged, sharp, pointy rock till I tried this. The front is a HR2 and I don't mind it. But I think since the dhr2 sucks so bad that I'm not giving the HR2 credit. I seriously consider reversing the tire so the ramps are backwards to try and help traction. Has anyone else done this?

kidwoo · Jul 24, 2017

A 2.3 anything maxxis is pretty pinner. There's also a slew of 'oem only' tires that maxxis has (white maxxis logo) that are what should be refered to as Walmart compound. They're certainly not 3C.

EC: you talking about climbing or descending here? Because if you turn that tire around so it climbs better, all you're going to do is give yourself that much joy and control on descents instead.

Electric_City · Jul 24, 2017

Both. It just slides off rocks. Our terrain is "rolly". You're rarely ever flat. You either climb 1k and descend 1k, or you hit a 10' steep shot followed by a 50' descent, 15 up... Any time these tires (C3 compound) touch rocks, up or down, you have to be ready to accommodate them sliding off. Even on tacky stone. If their Oe tires are for some reason made differently, but claim to be the same, shame on them for A) ruining their image and B) fooling the customer.

As a bike tire company though in this "small" industry where they stopped making high end 26" tires that were the standard for 40 years, why set up an OE run and a high end aftermarket run?

It could be C) me not liking this tire for some odd reason. But I'm pretty neutral with tires. I've never really ridden one that I didn't like. Panaracer, michelin, kenda, maxxis, Bontrager specialized... Except this dhr2.

ZHendo · Jul 24, 2017

I've had nothing but luck with the DHR2. Running it front and rear on my trail bike (Knolly Warden Carbon), and it has been great in everything from early season snowmelt slop here in the PNW to the bone dry summer conditions we're currently experiencing. Wish I had gone with the WT casing for the added volume and beefier knobs, but really can't complain about the tire. Better grip across all conditions than Magic Mary (scary on wet roots / rocks) and DHF in my opinion.

kidwoo · Jul 24, 2017

Electric_City said:
Our terrain is "rolly". You're rarely ever flat. You either climb 1k and descend 1k, or you hit a 10' steep shot followed by a 50' descent, 15 up...

Dear god. Have you considered suicide? Other than the first part that sounds like the kind of riding that would turn me into a full time fisherman.

Couple things. It's 3C. And there are two of them. Maxxgrip, and maxxterra. There might even be a third that only shows up on their full on xc tires but those are the two that matter. The maxxgrip is (wait for it) grippier. The max terra are barely even a soft compound. They're a little better than what they call 'dual' so I guess they have a place.

The dhr2 is a legit tread but the 2.3s are pretty pinner like I said. On most rims they end up pretty round. But you're talking about slippery rocks so that's almost all compound, not tread design. Take a picture of your tire graphics. Seriously. And maxxis has done a lot of dumb shit the last few years but you can't fault them for not making 26" tires. They're actually releasing newer treads in 26, a lot more so than some other companies.

TLDR version: can it

Dogboy · Jul 24, 2017

I'd choose maxxterra over maxxgrip all day long for a trail bike/non-dh bike tire. 42a shoulders and a 50a center is plenty grippy and they wear amazingly well. I'm not sure what planet a Nevegal is better than a DHR2 on. A DHR2 made out of dog turds would grip better than a Nevegal.

Electric_City · Jul 24, 2017

kidwoo said:
Couple things. It's 3C. And there are two of them. Maxxgrip, and maxxterra. There might even be a third that only shows up on their full on xc tires but those are the two that matter. The maxxgrip is (wait for it) grippier.

But you're talking about slippery rocks so that's almost all compound, not tread design.

Maxx terra is what they are. File won't upload.
Not slippery rocks, extremely grippy rocks. People ride here after it rains and even during the winter with ice in the nooks and crannies. These tires suck.

Ps. Is variable terrain off limits to you?

StiHacka · Jul 24, 2017

Perhaps a little deeper siping would help?

kidwoo · Jul 24, 2017

Electric_City said:
Maxx terra is what they are. File won't upload.
Not slippery rocks, extremely grippy rocks. People ride here after it rains and even during the winter with ice in the nooks and crannies. These tires suck.

Ps. Is variable terrain off limits to you?

If you really have 3c tires that don't grip on 'grippy rocks' I'd suggest not riding through oil slicks any more.

Is that the term for 'shit that never goes downhill'.....varied terrain?

If so, then yeah I don't do that. In fact I moved 2500 miles specifically to not do that.

The 2.4 dhr2s are legit. They're far bigger than 0.1" bigger. But if you're buying something new anyway that's an even bigger pool to pull from.

kidwoo · Jul 24, 2017

Dogboy said:
I'd choose maxxterra over maxxgrip all day long for a trail bike/non-dh bike tire. 42a shoulders and a 50a center is plenty grippy and they wear amazingly well. I'm not sure what planet a Nevegal is better than a DHR2 on. A DHR2 made out of dog turds would grip better than a Nevegal.

That stick-e stuff that kenda uses/used is actually pretty good. And sticking to rocks has way more to do with rubber than tread design.

But yeah those maxx terra tires are fine on trail bikes. They're just not as good as the very small handful of trailbike tires that made with the super tacky stuff. So I'm grumpy.

Electric_City · Jul 24, 2017

kidwoo said:
So I'm grumpy.

blindboxx2334 · Jul 24, 2017

woo doesn't fuck around when it comes to tires.

proof (woo in the wild):

kidwoo · Jul 24, 2017

Suspenders?

My tires stay in place on my giant mancock.

jstuhlman · Jul 24, 2017

also too tall and not enough flannel

Jm_ · Jul 28, 2017

Yeah, definitely the schwalbe. Hans Dampf. Here's mine:

Electric_City · Jul 28, 2017

After last night, trust me, the DHR2 is a massive piece of shit. On dry, rough stone it still found a way to slip out. Road tires would have gotten traction on this. No kidding.

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