According to Mike Kazimer, the complete XTR 2x11 Di2 goes up to $2800, so the sram teledildonics are still cheaper.
This is what's wrong with The Industry™
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Not really a direct comparison bc the sram mtb stuff is only 1x.
Yeah, but Shimano has been defending the twoby for ages now. And the total range is comparable.
$100 to demo the fork 
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/trust-performance-announces-us-demo-program.html
Though there is a shop in Lancaster PA that demos them, paging Dr jonkranked to the demo phone pls
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/trust-performance-announces-us-demo-program.html
Though there is a shop in Lancaster PA that demos them, paging Dr jonkranked to the demo phone pls
Are they asking you to sign a mutual NDA, too?$100 to demo the fork
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/trust-performance-announces-us-demo-program.html
Though there is a shop in Lancaster PA that demos them, paging Dr jonkranked to the demo phone pls
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/drift-products-us299-carbon-flat-pedal.html
Still cheaper than Crank Bros' Stamps though...
www.crankbrothers.com/products/stamp-11-large
Still cheaper than Crank Bros' Stamps though...
www.crankbrothers.com/products/stamp-11-large
Save 80g, spend 280 more. huh
demohohohohohoho?$100 to demo the fork
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/trust-performance-announces-us-demo-program.html
Though there is a shop in Lancaster PA that demos them, paging Dr jonkranked to the demo phone pls
Alright, I wasn’t gonna ride one, but if they’re going to PAY ME $100, I guess I’ll sign up$100 to demo the fork
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/trust-performance-announces-us-demo-program.html
Though there is a shop in Lancaster PA that demos them, paging Dr jonkranked to the demo phone pls
i saw that when it was announced. as curious as i am to try that fork, i'm not that curious. unless you guys wanna fund it and i'll report back. @amishmatt is probably closer than me.$100 to demo the fork
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/trust-performance-announces-us-demo-program.html
Though there is a shop in Lancaster PA that demos them, paging Dr jonkranked to the demo phone pls
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I tell you what I think is wrong with the industry, lift assisted trails that only have 350ft of vert, enduro races that are 100% lift assisted, and e-bikes.
What happened to the fundamental accpect of bikes where you actually need pedal them? Otherwise just get a motorcycle.
What happened to the fundamental accpect of bikes where you actually need pedal them? Otherwise just get a motorcycle.
Just wait, Trek will make a one piece bar stem to run the brake lines thru, horrible to work on, so aero.
Ya, by a whole dollar
300 vs 299.
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to both, but at least the Crack-Bros have some decent real-estate for the cost and they don't require eye-bleach to look at.And Ti, Ti is like real home-made bacon bits, a sprinkle makes everything better.
So 351ft of very is cool? Got it.
Do you also feel that XC skiing is the only respectable form of skiing? I mean, what do they need chairlifts for anyway?
I think you have drawn some conclusions that appear to be pretty defensive on your part.
I live pretty much at the base of Windrock Bike Park. I occasionally ride the shuttles on the weekend and occasionally pedal the 2100ft to the peak. Nothing wrong with either, but that's quite different than being so lazy that you can't pedal 350ft for a 1 -2 minute run down a small hill.
Have you guys seen the shit show going on at Vital over the short/long chainstays debate? Some guys seem to think a bike without some magical formula relating the front and rear centers is UNRIDABRU! Personal preference isn't a valid reason, and only 450mm+ chainstays will make you go faster than light.
<Facepalms with a shovel>
<Facepalms with a shovel>
Yeah, no one on this forum would be caught arguing about geo numbers, or leverage ratios, or suspension setup....
I ventured there to state I liked short chainstays because I come from a dirt jumping background only to be told I was going to die and everything I believe in was wrong.Yeah, no one on this forum would be caught arguing about geo numbers, or leverage ratios, or suspension setup....
I find a lot less fundamentalists here.
That would actually be pretty cool if the stages were long enough to justify using shuttles/uplifts. I did the challenger EWS at Whistler and I'm pretty sure I only climbed like 300m for whole event. Doesn't mean it wasn't a hell of a lot of pedalling with the stages and liasons though. Slogging up fireroads when there's an easier option on hand is kind of masochistic really.
Assuming you're talking about Spider Mountain in Texas, obviously I was just there and rode in a shuttle truck for 1 lap and pedaled the rest because it took 7 minutes to pedal or 4 minutes to shuttle (plus load/unload time). I was questioning why you would ever ride the lift there, until I thought about pedaling a bike up a hill in Texas, in the summer time. I've been in Austin in September before, and it was so humid and hot that just standing around made me want to crawl out of my skin. Pedaling up a hill in July would be an absolute no-go for me. That probably has something to do with the chairlift.
Wanting to ride downhill is enough to 'justify' using lifts.
Fanny sack wearing mother fkn grumble grumble...........
i agree with the sentiment - rear centers need to grow to balance the new rangey reaches.
stubby cs are fine - but pair them w/ a 500mm reach, and you're going to be compromising chassis balance (cornering, noticeably). moral of the story is balance. and that a fixed cs length from xs to xl frame sizes is dumb.
I think what people are realizing currently is that there isn't so much a magic chain stay length but an ideal ratio of the amount of bike in front of you to amount of bike behind you. See Steve's Vorsprung tech talks regarding FC/RC ratios.
This has long been a complaint for tall riders who experience manufacturers increasing the front end length on XL sizes but not the chainstay length, causing too much rearward weight bias.
Truth. But I'm not paying $100 for a lift pass and waiting in line for an uplift to avoid a 5 minute climb.
Back when we first bought our house, there was a little ski resort that had a tiny bike park (if you could even call it that) about 25 minutes away. Barely over 400 ft of vertical. It was nothing special, but it certainly wasn't crap. But what was good about it is that I could spend the morning doing chores, then go bang out DH laps for a few hours in the afternoon. Why? Because it had a lift. Sadly it's no longer in business. Now the closet DH trails (lift access or otherwise) is a 90 minute drive.
I just had an idea
DON'T ENTER STUPID FUCKING ENDURO RACES THAT ATTRACT THOUSANDS OF ENTITLED CAUCASIAN DIPSHITS WHO JUST GOT THEIR FIRST EASTER COLORED DORK MACHINES.
Worth a shot at least.
dude-90 minutes is sweet. our closest is 2.5 hours door to door. i regularly (i.e., fuckit fridays when i blow off work, like tomorrow) drive 2 hours to ride non lift assist back country pisgah goodness. prolly 4-5 hours riding, 4 hours driving total. worth it every time.
but but but...my dork machine is trendy non-pastel-match your tacoma-beige...i can haz enduro (at least until my crabon bars snap and impale me ded)?
That's exactly my point. At 6ft tall/ape index 1, I was quite comfortable with my Orbea Rallón's 465mm reach and 420mm chainstays, but after trying a friend's Mondraker Dune with 480mm reach and 435mm chainstays I couldn't believe how much composed that bike was in terms of stability, ploughability and steamrolling, without feeling like a transatlantic when taking slow/closed-ratio turns. You would just point and shoot, and the bike would do as instructed. That however came to the expense of being harder to manual and harder to get air time with it. The suspension system has a lot to do with a bike's manners of course, and I think you cannot derive a general formula for front/rear center ratios without taking it into account.
I'm still looking for a 480mm reach/590-600mm stack/420-425mm chainstays/64° HA/76-77° SA bike.
I think Guerrilla Gravity approaches what I want with their current crabon Megatrail, but I'm still splitting hairs in terms of my next bike's geometry.
I bet that hurt.
Read that again, but slowly. Why would I be waiting for an uplift at an enduro race? Its been big DH races where I've spent 5x more time waiting for shuttles than riding. Maybe something retarded like the Megavalanche might involved huge uplift delays but i'm not interested in that shit. Ythink the purist DHers are just hating on enduro because they put all their money into a dual crown sled that is massive overkill for what they're doing and they're frustrated bum-bag wearing fashion rejects seem to be having more fun.
