Guerrilla Gravity, badass frame manufacturer in Colorado
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From what I am reading, the aluminum and plastic Shred Doggs are both posted at 6.5-6.6 lbs. Sorry if it has been covered, but is there any difference in the weight of the new vs old frames? Did the front triangles come out at the same weight as the aluminum?
The Revved front triangle is 0.6lbs lighter than an equivalent aluminum version. Quoted weights on the aluminum bikes were raw, where quoted weights for carbon bikes include powder coat.
Carbon frame is wrapped in alu cooking foil for the powdercoat to stick to.
Normally it isn’t feasible, or would require a very low temp cure powder, which isn’t as durable. But Revved carbon is cooked so much hotter than traditional carbon, normal powder coat works.
Interesting, does the powdercoat add another layer of effective scratch resistance?
i'm inclined to say yes. IME powdercoating has always been more durable than paint. altough i do believe it weighs a few more grams.
Me thinks GG is using a thermoplastic like from Tencate, not a thermoset.
https://www.tencatecomposites.com/products/thermoplastic/reinforced-thermoplastic-laminates
https://www.tencatecomposites.com/products/thermoplastic/reinforced-thermoplastic-laminates
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Oooooohhh! Crabon frames that can be welded?
I listened to your podcast with Vital yesterday while I was waxing skis. Very cool, interesting podcast. good job. was surprised at the "external-internal" cable routing thing. funny how something that seems simple can turn out to be anything but...
Yeah, it created some complicated geometry in the downtube that was pretty difficult to create consistently. The whole time we were figuring out those solutions, Ben was like "this fuckin cable door, if it wasn't there..". Ha ha. And, then I was pretty concerned about fit up tolerances with the exact thickness of the door itself vs housing diameter and powder coat thickness, combined with the stiffness of the door itself to make sure it blended into the frame when everything was assembled. We're pumped on how it looks now, though.
Glad you made it work. Screw internal routing especially for the brake...this seems like a nice compromise.
From what I've seen it's the best of both worlds - clean routing and none of the hassle of trying to push tubes through tiny ass holes. A little surprised no other companies have tried this yet (that I'm aware of).
Think GT has their cables in a grove down the down tube on the alloy bikes at least. Agree that this seems better (as usual with GG).
Don't the branches increase wind resistance?
Har har fycker. God I love the bag of assholes we’ve assembled at teh Monkey.
I’m sure they did about the same processes 10 years ago. 
Hollow carbon frames have existed for a long time, but not from the materials we’re using (which themselves are far less than 10 years old), and said materials require a different manufacturing methodology.I’m sure they did about the same processes 10 years ago.
That’s point I’m trying to make is that it’s any aerospace tech, carbon, thermoplastic and what not after ten plus years is not the same thing as now, it’s refined to a much higher degree. I think it’s kinda insulting to GG that within the article the others make statements like we did it a decade ago. Maybe I miss read, but the replies came off as a kinda dig.
Ah, I misunderstood you the first time. As far as what the other industry composites guys said, it’s unlikely they would tell a reporter “shit, we should have figured this out and started doing it ourselves by now”. However, that has been happening privately. Our material supplier said they’ve heard almost exactly that from some “big guys” in the industry.