This is what's wrong with The Industry™
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Downcountry bike = 29r, 140 rear, 150 front?
no. its basically an XC bike but without xc geometry, and less of a dirt roadie build spec
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It's interesting that the industry is now embracing "mismatched" front travel vs rear. For years we were told the bike wouldn't "feel balanced" if you had more front travel than rear. Many of us ignored that opinion, of course.
IMO there is no reason for a MTB to have an HA steeper than 65.
IMO there is no reason for a MTB to have an HA steeper than 65.
Other than my DH bikes, I think all my bikes were that way. In recent memory, two Banshee Spitfires with whatever is on the back and ran a Fox 36 at 160/150mm (26" and 27.5" wheels). And now a Transition Scout with 125mm in the back and 150mm fork.
The industry is just catching up to our correct way of thinking.
I guess you don't consider dirt jump bikes mtbs?
No. Think sb100.
I hooned the fuck out of a SB100 last year. It was fun as fuck.
Reminded me of a Blur 4X or a Yeti 4x with updated geo. Jumped on all the things and did sick skids. Got too excited trying to drift a grassy field and fell on my ass, I blame you the Maxxis Rekon lol
Reminded me of a Blur 4X or a Yeti 4x with updated geo. Jumped on all the things and did sick skids. Got too excited trying to drift a grassy field and fell on my ass, I blame you the Maxxis Rekon lol
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Fucking xc dorks need to learn to slap some corners. Brap brap motherfuckers
Do you remember who told you that, because I remember riding hardtails that had significantly more front travel than rear and I don't remember anyone making a big deal about 20mm, as well as DH bikes that had like eleventy inches in the rear.
That RDS article with some “don’t ride when it’s wet” and some seat angle wanking really gets me pumped to panic brake my downcountry ebike!
but does it sound better than this?Bike Lizards are still in the egg compared to the Audiophool world.
I have a Naim audio system that would buy a nice car. but my entire system is less than some spend on cables.
I have been out of the world now for several years, but this is the first thing that came to mind and it is far from the most expensive.
Wilson Audio WAM Master Chronosonic @ a mere 685 000.00 (2016) the pair.
Would the good sir like a pair for the conservatory as well as the a pair for the main parlor?
I don't get the hype. It's just PB who is using that buzz I guess. On the Salsa page you won't find it. And i don't go to the pink site of advertorials anymore.
So don't feed the pink machine by spreading their disease.
Down-country eh?? How stupid. Whoever came up with this category/label should be publicly shamed.
What if you want to ride up the country? Can down-country bikes do that? Maybe I want to ride across the country....but I guess that would be XC.
I get downhill bikes...you're riding down a hill (well, more of a mountain really). You can't ride up the hill with a downhill bike....so it's specifically a 'down'-hill bike.
The lizards should have stopped at 'ALL mountain'.
What if you want to ride up the country? Can down-country bikes do that? Maybe I want to ride across the country....but I guess that would be XC.
I get downhill bikes...you're riding down a hill (well, more of a mountain really). You can't ride up the hill with a downhill bike....so it's specifically a 'down'-hill bike.
The lizards should have stopped at 'ALL mountain'.
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All the different sub categories of mountain bikes are dumb. Don't get me wrong, it is nice to have so many options these days but the labels are just about marketing and for the lifestyle douchebags.
Only skim read it but... it's an advertising feature disguised as an article.
The article seems to have split opinion into two distinct camps.
if you're American Kona are using Cancer to sell Ebikes 11!!!!1
If you live in any European country it's an article about an American guy with lung cancer able to get out and ride with the aid of a Kona Ebike.
Reminds me a little of somewhere else... Can't quite seem to put my finger on where though.
The article seems to have split opinion into two distinct camps.
if you're American Kona are using Cancer to sell Ebikes 11!!!!1
If you live in any European country it's an article about an American guy with lung cancer able to get out and ride with the aid of a Kona Ebike.
Reminds me a little of somewhere else... Can't quite seem to put my finger on where though.
I recall reading a comment by @stiksandstones at Vital on a similar tone, about Troy Lee being able to get out and ride thanks to his e-bike.
I’m good friends with his brother, Kelly.
Kelly is one of the fastest older motherfuckers around, both up and down...he is putting as much effort out on his ebike (motorized trails), and is putting together 50+ mile rides in a few hours.
I will join him in a few years, but not yet, I’d rather pedal under my own steam for now.
Kelly is one of the fastest older motherfuckers around, both up and down...he is putting as much effort out on his ebike (motorized trails), and is putting together 50+ mile rides in a few hours.
I will join him in a few years, but not yet, I’d rather pedal under my own steam for now.
I've played on a few Funktion One systems; properly tuned they're damn clear at relatively high SPL.but does it sound better than this?
that one in Berghain is amazing, you can be in there for 2 days and you come out and have no ear problems like in so many other clubs. but the picture is quite old, thesedays they have a 6 towers in there
If they mean trail bikes that don't have geometry borrowed from road bikes with suspension added then I'm all for it.
The sooner more boutique companies make proper geo bikes, the sooner the affordable but slow moving companies will bring them to cheap bastards like me.
Current XC geometry is about as close to road geometry as DH bike geometry is to 120mm trail bike geometry.
Thing is... under a decent XC rider XC geometry makes perfect sense.
Just look at XC riders like Nino or Grant Ferguson ride.
Saddle up they're both more stylish and faster descending than a lot of "DH" riders here.
My roadbike (TCR) has a 73deg HA, a WC XC bike will be between 68-70
My 4X bike's HA is in that range and it's not exactly designed for roads or climbing.
Thing is... under a decent XC rider XC geometry makes perfect sense.
Just look at XC riders like Nino or Grant Ferguson ride.
Saddle up they're both more stylish and faster descending than a lot of "DH" riders here.
My roadbike (TCR) has a 73deg HA, a WC XC bike will be between 68-70
My 4X bike's HA is in that range and it's not exactly designed for roads or climbing.
Nino basically invented this "downcountry" category by convincing Scott to drastically alter the geometry and shock rate of their XC bike. If you look at his bike's geo compared to all the other XC racers in 2017 (when it came out) you'll see the difference.
...and Grant rides stock XC frames.
it's not the bike that has the riding ability or style. It's the rider.
N1no is an amazing rider but did he fuck invent slacker XC bikes... I was riding a 62 deg HA 100mm XC hardtail When he was 12yrs old.
now tell Nino to get off your lawn, you cranky old hipster.