stop crying about 20mm boost. all you need is a shim for the disc rotor and non-boost 20mm hubs will work with it.
don't get confused with Matlock, grandpa"Mattock" or "Mattoc"? FFS, Pinkbike.
i've got a first gen mattoc pro and it has been really reliable.
at the moment, it has the same type of air can as the Macleod shock where the negative chamber get pressurised when you mount the can on the damper body... they will upgrade later to self equalizing chambers. I didn't saw anything about a large neg chamber yet
easy there Dingus Fromunda, this is 15mm boost.
shoulda clarified.
I have a first gen Mattoc Pro (26/27.5).
I have a set sitting on my workbench that are going on my new Fugitive.
That happened to you too?
That's cool, thanks!
https://www.notubes.com/news/say-what-the-difference-between-20x110mm-thru-axles-and-20x110mm-boost-thru-axles-explained/
written by Fraser, uses the pronoun "we" on a Stans No Tubes site. Is he staff there now? I thought I saw him with a "Photo" vest at the last world cup?
Where do you see that? I just see two photo credits.
yea, he's still a full time photog. stans is one of clients. but he wouldn't be doing editorial / technical product writing for them.
Yeah, if you keep it 20mm, there are conversion kits for that. Can do on the rear too (the rotor spacing thing).
that fucked me up when i first got the mattoc.
not really- I purchased my last (expensive) wheelset in 20x110 and 142mm. I can't (won't) buy a new frame because everything is 148mm and forks are now 15x110. The 36 that I am running now converts between 15x100 and 20x110, which is pretty slick. Offering only one option prevents me from buying that fork, even though I like weird shit and am therefore their target market.
huh. reading comprehension is hard! I blame the terrible format on my phone, and lack of caffeine this morning...
Nope, I think there's a bunch of 20mm fans on here, I've got the same convertible 36 as Sandwich (running in 20mm mode of course). BuckoW runs a few also, says it's noticeably stiffer than 15mm. It's somewhat ridiculous to have a 15mm axle in a 170-180mm travel heavy-use singlecrown.
Does it have the 15mm inserts? The convertible fork that I have has small aluminum inserts to accept a 15mm axle. You just remove them with pliers and your 20mm axle slides right in. I'm not certain, but I'd wager the 20mm axle from you fox 40 would fit. They appear the same to me.
Fairly sure they're not compatible. The threads on the 20mm 36 axle are the same size as the 15mm, so smaller diameter than the 40. Don't know if this goes for pre 2015 lowers though.
mine is the version with the 15mm inserts, but the axle from a 40 is not interchangeable with a 36.
If you seek 20mm axle for stiffness, the Lyrik is quite stiffer than a 36 with 15mm axle. Numbers are somewhere on the internet, I feel to lazy today to look for a link...
So if you had a traditional hub with a spacer tube between the bearings axial loads could change the bearing preloads as the fork flexes or the wheel deflects off something?
Don't forget the little shims in the slits between the pinched dropouts.
Shouldn't matter that much once you have the pinch bolts on the axle clamped down. I 100% agree with udi that separating the tightening of the wheel from keeping the fork legs together is a far better design though.
