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canadmos

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Beast is out of estivation.

I might try to get the rear tire tubeless again. It's kinda old and stretchy. Might not be tight enough to hold the goo.

Need to service rear hub and try to guesstimate when it will implode.

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I need to check out my hub as well. It made some funny clicks at the end of last year.

I wonder if and Onyx hub would be any more reliable than pawls? Though one of those hubs would be worth more than my entire bike .
 

Jozz

Joe Dalton
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I need to check out my hub as well. It made some funny clicks at the end of last year.

I wonder if and Onyx hub would be any more reliable than pawls? Though one of those hubs would be worth more than my entire bike .
The proven reliable option is a DT350.
Mine also had metal flakes in it mid season. I'm afraid to open it.
 

canadmos

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That sucks... Could you take the pawl out for now?

Which hub is this one?

The bottom right pawl area might be cracked too...
 

Jozz

Joe Dalton
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That sucks... Could you take the pawl out for now?

Which hub is this one?

The bottom right pawl area might be cracked too...
It's a SunRingle SRC. They all seemed fucked.
I'm gonna go ahead and ignore it. :rolleyes:

Realized my rear Lou tire is basically falling appart.
 

rideit

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In the cleavage of the Tetons
So, I mostly ride spd’s here, because usually the snow is very, very dry. However, for the times flats would be better, I actually think these would be dope, if they weren’t $300. Like, maybe $100?
(and yes, I am aware of how many times these have been posted...)
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Jozz

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So, I mostly ride spd’s here, because usually the snow is very, very dry. However, for the times flats would be better, I actually think these would be dope, if they weren’t $300. Like, maybe $100?
(and yes, I am aware of how many times these have been posted...)
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Wet snow is going to exacerbate the bulge, becoming unridebru.
How aboot some oneup or raceface in plastinium?
 

6thElement

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Kona Wah Wah 2's in size large composite are what you should be running on a chubby bike. Otherwise you're wrong.

(OneUp's have the grooves in them which fill with ice and slowly block the pins/your foothold)
 

canadmos

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My cheap plastic oneup pedals clog everyonce in a while, but a stomp or two and they clear.

Or just hit a stump hurried in the snow, that usually works, but may cause other issues.
 
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konifere

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Oh dang who got those then? Perhaps I confused you with @konifere . Derp.

Stupid question...what kind of rim tape is required for single wall rims with huge windows?
Yes that was me. Unfortunately, once my fat bike was juuust right, I moved out and sold it :wacko:

Those tubes were a bit of a hassle to put in (if you got the presta like me) on the schrader drilled rims, but once in, I haven't had any issue.
 
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scrublover

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I've got some Hope Fatsno hubs if anyone is interested...

Blue 15x150 front, 12x177 rear
Red 15x150 front, 12x177
And a black rear 12x177
 

FlipSide

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I don't have much to contribute in this thread, other than I am 2 rides in, in my first ever fat bike season and I have a blast. I love it!

I went to E47 both times, riding the same trails as in the summer time. The feel and challenge is different than the summer experience on a regular mtb,, but it's just as fun.

Conditions were excellent however. I understand it won't be as great all winter long.
 

canadmos

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I don't have much to contribute in this thread, other than I am 2 rides in, in my first ever fat bike season and I have a blast. I love it!

I went to E47 both times, riding the same trails as in the summer time. The feel and challenge is different than the summer experience on a regular mtb,, but it's just as fun.

Conditions were excellent however. I understand it won't be as great all winter long.
When fat bike conditions are good, it is a lot of fun.

Sometimes when the trail is packed down, a foot below the surrounding fluff, it just feels like riding a slot car track or something.

E47 and SDM look like they'd be a blast with their grooming.
 

Jozz

Joe Dalton
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I don't have much to contribute in this thread, other than I am 2 rides in, in my first ever fat bike season and I have a blast. I love it!

I went to E47 both times, riding the same trails as in the summer time. The feel and challenge is different than the summer experience on a regular mtb,, but it's just as fun.

Conditions were excellent however. I understand it won't be as great all winter long.
Groomed trails are fun to go fast without not much technicalities. If you get the chance to ride steep snowshoe trails, you'll probably have a blast. My view of a fun ride has changed since I got my new fatbike. It's now shorter, but full of sketchy dh and improvised lines. I groom my own lines in the forest that I have cleared the past few years.
 
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FlipSide

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Groomed trails are fun to go fast without not much technicalities. If you get the chance to ride steep snowshoe trails, you'll probably have a blast. My view of a fun ride has changed since I got my new fatbike. It's now shorter, but full of sketchy dh and improvised lines. I groom my own lines in the forest that I have cleared the past few tears.
Yes, I agree it was not very technical. It was a bit similar to a summer flow trail with berms you can rely on. Perfect for where I'm at in my recovery from my broken foot. There was one however that had not been ridden much and was much more challenging. It was basically a 6-8" skinny the whole way down.

There are also plenty of options in the area for snowshoe-trail you can ride on a fat bike. I will check them out for sure. There are also plenty of double-black trails at SDM that are snowshoe trails in the winter. They are on the list too! :)
 

canadmos

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The bearings in the front hub on the girlfriends fat bike have left the chat, so I thought I'd swap the tire, tube and rotor over to the wheel that I kept from my old bike.

Got everything swapped, tried to mount the wheel......and of course they are different axle widths! :banghead:
 

6thElement

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The bearings in the front hub on the girlfriends fat bike have left the chat, so I thought I'd swap the tire, tube and rotor over to the wheel that I kept from my old bike.

Got everything swapped, tried to mount the wheel......and of course they are different axle widths! :banghead:
Is hers some ancient 135 front instead of the more common now 150mm?
 

canadmos

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Is hers some ancient 135 front instead of the more common now 150mm?
I don't know, I threw it into the shed out of frustration, locked the door and cracked a beer.

Her fork is wider, so I assume my old bike was the weird one. Though hers is still in that in-between zone where its all QR...

They looked close enough when I was swapping tires, didn't even clue in that they'd be different. The rear hubs on the bikes were the same, as I used hers when mine exploded a few seasons ago.
 

6thElement

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I don't know, I threw it into the shed out of frustration, locked the door and cracked a beer.

Her fork is wider, so I assume my old bike was the weird one. Though hers is still in that in-between zone where its all QR...

They looked close enough when I was swapping tires, didn't even clue in that they'd be different. The rear hubs on the bikes were the same, as I used hers when mine exploded a few seasons ago.
More shims required.

I have zero knowledge on chubby front QR hub sizing other than vague memory that there was old 135mm stuff before stuff went to 150mm TA.
 

canadmos

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Perhaps the situation has been resolved. She bought a new replacement wheelset from Moose bikes for $200; whatever Chinese wheels that came with it, which have been fine for her limited use. Also comes with tires as well, which makes the deal better.
 

canadmos

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Putting studs in the girlfriends tires, which have already been used.

What a pain in the dick, having to pick tiny little rocks/sand grains out of the holes...
 

Jozz

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Cassette side to side play is now out of control. Chain dropping in the easiest gears.

Now what?
Choices are:

Replace freehub, and destroy it in one season
Replace bearings (3x) in freehub and hope they last longer than the originals.
Sell superfluous organs and get a DT350. ($600)

I've broke so many hubs on the fatbike it's getting unfunny fast. :(
 

6thElement

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The 350 spoked to Mulefut's wheelset that I picked up on clearance a couple of years ago for $360 US were a bargain, but you must be able to find just a 190 hub for less than 600 Canadian Shekels?

e.g.:
 
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Jozz

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Our money sunk since orange shart got elected. Around here they sell for $550, not including 15% taxes and a rebuild. And I haven't looked into flanges size and spokes length yet.

Stuff from the US, you sometimes get riped with custom fees.
 

slimshady

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5 times today....

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Out of curiosity, do the pawls in the freehub have individual springs, or are they the kind with a wire loop pushing them all out? For the latter ones the pawl in the segment of wire where the two ends overlap usually has some issues springing out IMHE.

You can try to increase the spring force by closing the loop a bit, and also move it so the overlapping sits at a different place.
 

Jozz

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Ok, my plan is to steal my girlfriend's rear wheel of her Blizzard. She has the DT350. Buy a new freehub for my wheel. She uses her fatbike 4-5 times per winter and not really abusing it like I do.
 

canadmos

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Out of curiosity, do the pawls in the freehub have individual springs, or are they the kind with a wire loop pushing them all out? For the latter ones the pawl in the segment of wire where the two ends overlap usually has some issues springing out IMHE.

You can try to increase the spring force by closing the loop a bit, and also move it so the overlapping sits at a different place.
Not sure what's inside this hub. But I've had both types and both broke.

I think with the width of these hubs being +190mm, it allows things to flex just enough so that the pawls don't engage perfectly straight with the drive rings.

So that's where we get the repeated pawl failures, markings on the freehub body area between the pawl seats and drive ring unhappiness.

Maybe the ratchets in DT Swiss type hubs deal with this better; the ratchets are stronger and there is more engagement all the way around.

Also curious about the Onyx fat bike hubs. Maybe their clutch is even better? Though those hubs are $$$$$$.
 

canadmos

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Ok, my plan is to steal my girlfriend's rear wheel of her Blizzard. She has the DT350. Buy a new freehub for my wheel. She uses her fatbike 4-5 times per winter and not really abusing it like I do.
I'll be curious to see how this turns out.

Maybe open the hub and take a "before jozz" pic and then compare in a month or two?
 

6thElement

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I'd love to give one of those hubs a try, probably on the chubby bike where the weight wouldn't bother me as much. But not changing anything away from our 350 hubbed wheels wife and I both have on le fat bikes.