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  1. Old Man G Funk

    Majority of Republicans Doubt Theory of Evolution

    Check out "Jesus Camp" and see what kind of people push that "evilution is Satan" carp.
  2. Old Man G Funk

    Majority of Republicans Doubt Theory of Evolution

    Tailbones too. Oh, and let's not forget childbirth and women's hips.
  3. Old Man G Funk

    Majority of Republicans Doubt Theory of Evolution

    Who says evolution is random? Mutations are random, selection is not. Disclaimer: Before Fluff or MikeD chime in saying that I'm talking about agency, I'm not. This has nothing to do with purpose. Non-randomness is not the same as purpose.
  4. Old Man G Funk

    Anyone want to have some fun with this?

    Sort of, sort of not. It's one of the few things Einstein is said to have been wrong about. Although for macro items the observation doesn't hold, it does for quantum objects. This is how quantum cryptography works IIRC.
  5. Old Man G Funk

    Anyone want to have some fun with this?

    I'm not sure I'm getting the point you are trying to make, except that you think the world chaotic, not ordered? I object to your characterization of stalagtites and stalagmites being a "process" but evolution not, especially because evolution does not have any implication o "a larger order...
  6. Old Man G Funk

    Anyone want to have some fun with this?

    I don't see the implied purpose that you and Mike D seem to be picking up. "Nature" in this respect merely represents "natural" processes, like random mutations and selection. Not there a priori? Huh? It seems to me that you are saying that nature is pure chaos, but it just so happens that...
  7. Old Man G Funk

    Anyone want to have some fun with this?

    Evolution implies no design or plan, so in that we agree. Anyone who says otherwise simply doesn't understand evolution. But we did "discover" it, didn't we? Sorry, but nothing violates the second law of thermodynamics, and this is not a problem for evolution.
  8. Old Man G Funk

    Anyone want to have some fun with this?

    OK, we can disagree, but I hope it's not due to a misunderstanding of what science is. Science is not a study of "why" we are here. Science is the study of the world around us, and to that end it really is rather utilitarian. That we can make computers and airplanes, etc. speaks to that quite...
  9. Old Man G Funk

    Anyone want to have some fun with this?

    WTF are you going on about? How does naming a process make those assumptions? In the case of evolution, naming a process means that we have observed it and have a name for it, nothing more. And who the hell is saying that evolution gets at "truth" or "reality" in the case that you seem to be...
  10. Old Man G Funk

    Anyone want to have some fun with this?

    No one is saying we are completely sure it wasn't god. What we are saying is that we are completely sure that we can't scientifically say it was god. And, you are completely right, absence of evidence doesn't mean god isn't there, but it does mean that we can't say it is there. The plain fact...
  11. Old Man G Funk

    New Hitchens book...

    Are there any arguments for religion that aren't high school level though?
  12. Old Man G Funk

    The state of mental health in Africa

  13. Old Man G Funk

    The state of mental health in Africa

    Rockwool, If you get anything else out of this thread, get this concept. We don't have ways of scientifically measuring the effects that you talk about, so they are not scientific ideas as yet. As for too much medication, some doctors do prescribe too much, others don't. I think that stems...
  14. Old Man G Funk

    The state of mental health in Africa

    If history is any indication, you've just added nothing of any value what-so-ever to this thread, so go troll elsewhere.
  15. Old Man G Funk

    The state of mental health in Africa

    I fail to see how. There's a reason that we follow the scientific method, and that is because subjective methods do not work. I would not dispute that. But, and sufficiently advanced culture does not necessarily mean advanced medical knowledge. Yet we know that people not doing yoga...
  16. Old Man G Funk

    The state of mental health in Africa

    I may very well be ignorant of those studies. Can you provide some cites please? Please be advised that studies have been done on the efficacy of prayer as well, which doesn't mean that prayer is a scientific concept. That's not entirely true. Most scientific studies set out to provide...
  17. Old Man G Funk

    The state of mental health in Africa

    It doesn't matter where it is scientifically tested, let's see the science. The movement of lifeforce or chi or whatever is not a scientific concept as yet. If someone can come up with a way to test/quantify it, then so be it, but until then many of the effects can be chalked up to placebo...
  18. Old Man G Funk

    The state of mental health in Africa

    Of course we will look back and see ignorance, especially if we keep learning at the pace we've been learning for the past 50 years or so. That doesn't mean that we should be looking towards untested methodologies that have not been fully, scientifically studied. If you want to push for...
  19. Old Man G Funk

    Know your rights

    OK, the video is long (45.5 mins) but there's information in here on how to deal with police. http://www.pandachute.com/videos/know_your_rights I'd be interested to hear what some of the legal professionals on this board think of the advice.
  20. Old Man G Funk

    The state of mental health in Africa

    What are you, a scientologist? Please tell me you see a difference between a) working through problems and using medication to correct chemical imbalances and b) using exorcisms and chains and prayer to drive tormenting demons out.
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