I'm sorry you heard my post that way. I in no way intended to bash on Trek, imply they're set up guide is not good, or the shocks they provide on their bikes are inconsistent.
Even if their shocks where 100% consistent, and their set up guide 100% perfect, my theory would still apply...
Weedkilla:
Looks like there's a little miscommunication here. It's not being suggested that the parking lot bounce sag test has any immediate QUALITATIVE function. That is, you're not looking for what "feels good" in the parking lot during a bounce sag test. The only purpose of the bounce...
Actually, just the opposite. In fact, it's Trek (in this example) that is assuming they can make consistent shocks/forks. This is assumption is implied by them suggesting suspension setup in terms of # of clicks. Say two 180lb riders with the same bike and the same shock are setting up their...
My experience with tuners and from what I've read about Push and Avy, is that they ask you your riding STYLE preferences: what do you like? Big drops, slow steep chunky technical, FR, trail, climbing, etc.
I could be wrong, but I don't think tuners tend ask for your preferences in terms of...
Ya, I did get it installed, but only by using some small generic right spacers on the upper hardware. The shock is okay (not great) on a 6point with min LSC and HSC settings, maximum air chamber volume and min psi, but is still noticeably over damped for such a low leverage design. Getting...
Good question. My thinking is that you would set your LSC in the parking lot according to bounce sag as a starting point. Then ride and adjust as you go to fine tune it. Then when you get back to the parking lot after the ride, take your bounce measurement again (at the LSC setting you fine...
That's a great question!
The short answer is I don't think it matters. In my original post I started to outline why this exact question doesn't matter, but it got even longer! What I posted was the short version.
All that matters that the same person bounces with same amount of force.
Not...
That's is really great of Trek to provide that information. But notice how all they give you is # of clicks. Granted, that is a very easy to understand, but thinking in terms of # of clicks is not translatable across different frame, shocks or rider weights. # of clicks is somewhat arbitrary...
Sounds like's there's a little confusion about what I'm suggesting.
I'm NOT suggesting I know what your low speed compression setting SHOULD be. I'm only suggesting an easy and consistent way to measure LSC so that we can compare and discuss it more effectively. Consistent communication is...
I hear a lots of ney-sayers with no explanations. Unhelpful.
Norbar: Damping settings are not entirely about personal preference. Personal preference does apply, but only within a appropriate range. Personally, I believe the "personal preference" approach has become far over applied due to...
I think its time the mountain bike community should have a tuning framework for LSC. We have good frameworks for setting sag. But we should also have one for setting LSC.
Perhaps one already exists, if so, please share.
Currently, we have a language and framework for talking about and...
That's what I keeping hearing, that the TST is a good shock, but the WC is a great shock.
I have a WC right now. I tried shim tuning it myself, even talked to Marz techs to figure out the shim stack that would be good for me. I couldn't get the shock to feel any different after 3...
I know this is a topic that's come up before, but I haven't found any answers that sound convincing.
These are basically the same shock with different piggy back internals. The WC HSC is adjustable and the TST has...well TST. I THINK the tst is just a low speed compression adjustment, but...
I'm sorry, I didn't take what you where saying as being an ass, and I wasn't trying to be an ass in response, but now I see how it could look that way. I was just trying to be thorough. Thanks for being understanding and not getting pissed right away.
Regarding the air, I'm assuming it's...
The only reason I'm not 100% sure I have the right coil is because I don't have a lot of experience with coil shocks. I'm 95% certain because I've got the correct amount of sag, achieved that sag with an appropriate amount of preload, because a 350# spring is what other riders of my weight are...
I weigh 190 with all my gear. I should have been more clear about "big hit." What I meant was drops onto a down hill slope. So not to flat, but not onto the other side of nice steep double either. Are you familiar with att? The medium sized drops and jumps at att are what I have in mind...
Another 6Point/Roco Coil rider in San Diego, what are the odds? Thanks for the feed back! I'll try some higher pressures. I'm currently at the lowest recommended air pressure to encourage the bike to use it's 7" of travel (2.75" stroke, not 2.5").
92SE-R, how much do you weigh all geared up...
The frame is an IH 6Point. I do all mountain and some light free riding.
I originally had a DHX Air 5.0, it actually felt pretty good on big hits, but felt dead through gnar. Found a good deal on a Roco WC coil and had it custom tuned/revalved for my weight, style, frame. The Roco Coil feel...
I'm thinking of putting a Roco WC Air on my IH 6Point.
This frame uses a DW-link which is low leverage (thus requiring low damping settings) and it's a DW-link and thus performs best with especially low LSC damping.
Does anyone know for sure (please don't just speculate or guess) if an...
I used to have a 180mm shimano XT rear rotor and I just went up to a 203mm shimano XT rear rotor. Brake caliper is Shimano SLX.
The 180mm was nice and quiet. The 203mm moans when braking. It sounds like rotors sound when they get wet. The wheel spins freely when not braking, there' no...
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