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Significantly more prevalent with India than with i.e. the poor part of Europe (Poland, Romania, Ukraine, even Belarus).
Rode. It started sleeting like crazy during the last two miles, was fun. Now it's going to be pissing rain and wet snow for the next 30 hours.
We actually had a manager from India explain the cultural differences and how to better work with teams in India and he straight up spelled that out. I got really good results at first after building a good relationship with their technical lead as he felt he could speak the truth without any backlash, all off the record. He would call me immediately after every meeting and explain what he couldn't say in front of everyone. He also realized that he was trusted to make certain decisions and I wasn't going to punish him if things didn't work out. He was awesome and of course left for another job and wasn't able to do the same thing with his replacement. Typically see about 75% turnover every year.
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I'll take your word for it. I had few issues with my Polish coworkers at another job and haven't had much exposure to other Eastern European countries.
I had a Polish coworker get fired after asking in a meeting if there was a man in charge he could talk to after meeting a customer's Engineering Manager who was a woman.
Mmmm, pee water.
They don't have access to any of the laser or optics info on our systems. But yeah, you will never hear "we've never done this before" yet they have in fact never done this before.
At Leviton they didn't know Java, but they were learning.
Intel goes to Ireland.
Whatcha gettin?
I never had you figured as being such a short fellow…
A coworker got a call that his work truck was pissing gas all over the parking lot at work. We pulled it in and found a perfectly drilled hole in the bottom of the tank.
Big city livin'!
Big city livin'!
He pissed off someone... $20 the cat is gone tomorrow (assuming it's not towed today).
Nah it's a pretty sketchy location.
Patagonia outlet in the back brings the riffraff.
might have pissed of a magawagon owner.....
kids yo
The massive gulf between truly collectivist/high-context cultures and western/individualist culture is hard to explain for anyone who hasn't experienced it real-life, real-time.
The last year of my previous job/company was basically training a team in India how to do my job, so they could inevitably take my job.
I was laid off at the end of that.
The company went out of business the next year....
"Accident"
context is high
if only a medically trained professional were nearby.........
I need a CT scanner or an MRI to be useful. Also by the time I passed them there were probably 5 fire/EMT trucks there and an ambulance to boot.
Does India have a ‘Collectivist’ mindset? Or is just within castes?
Serious Q.
Indian castes don't mix. Castes among the immigrants in the US are as bad if not worse than in India, because it's a cultural taboo here. Individuals rely on hive mind for decision making and general avoidance of responsibility, but compete viciously during any opportunity for raising above peers. Viciously. Ethics is for losers.
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Well, yeah, that was the point of my inquiry. How can there be a ‘collective mind’, if there are castes that refuse to mix? Of course, in this context (engineers, etc), most will be Brahmin. But not all.
Caste does not impact collectivism. There are always limits to a collective, but it's not a matter of where social borders are...it's a matter of whether your individual rights/desires/wants are subsumed to those of the whole. And in India, along with much of the non-Western world, you're always a cog in someone else's wheel. Nothing is your own, really.
This is why it's more important to save face for the group in a process than to find the problem and fix it.
And that's absolutely a wrong charaterization of caste, Brahmin in particular.
Thanks for the clarification.