The 05 Clifcat website is up, check it out 
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the welds are chunky but that don't look bad prolly just using a thicker filling rod. im quite happy with my tankass (03 alu box stays). it has a lot of control to give but it can be lost easly. fun bike!Fulton said:
realivent? I THINK NOT.
hey HTFR, not sure u remember the screen name but i sold u my tankass. Do u have a pic of the bad boy?? Post it up dude!!!
I'm guessing it's(ClifCat site) still under construction. Or did he drop the rest of the line-up, sticking to 2 bikes, a fork and a motorbike!?
I wish he'd bring back the old Tank. I much perfer mine(same as HTFR's) over the steel tubed version.
I wish he'd bring back the old Tank. I much perfer mine(same as HTFR's) over the steel tubed version.
anyone seen the pics of their "Solution DH"? Not the clearest pics tho...
wonder why they blurred some of the pivots?
wonder why they blurred some of the pivots?
Looks heavy and I can not figure out how the suspension design works.......any ideas ??
cause it's bike porn.Acadian said:
Wow...I remember seeing pics of the 'Nighttrain' a few years ago. I guess this is it.
seismic said:
Because it's missing pieces. There's a little linkage at the lower shock mount.
actually looks a bit like this?Jimmy_Pop said:
Yeah I noticed that too...I had a crush on the Holeshot he used to make and that ran for more than one year except for the constant modications. I was always in love with jackshaft drivetrains.Bulldog said:
that cant be good for resale values. kinda like buying a new cadillacBulldog said:
Here's a shot that shows the little linkage... must be the same.
http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=51583
This one below was my favorite of all time. The resale value on these things is actaully high. Probably because he doesn't make too many of them and the orignial owners pay an arm and a leg for them.
http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=51583
This one below was my favorite of all time. The resale value on these things is actaully high. Probably because he doesn't make too many of them and the orignial owners pay an arm and a leg for them.
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the solution dh is actually a really light bike,that frame as you see it is roughly 10/12lbs no exact numbers yet. Its not exactly a Nighttrain either more of an evolved nighttrain.
its still a high pivot design but with a shock linkage. Think PDC.Bulldog said:
As someone has said, those pics of the solution are missing some of the linkage as he was still waiting for the parts from the machinist. The bike looks completely different to most of his other designs, but if you look at it from the geom/linkage point of view hes really just refining what hes done and adding in bits that he feels would make it better. Also, if you talked very nice to him, a little birdy tells me that he could probably put a jackshaft on there 
......but thats only if i dont beat you to it!
The pics of the new tankass are also up, i think its the best looking one of all the different designs, kind of a cross between the old alloy ones and the new steel one.
cheers
mike
......but thats only if i dont beat you to it!The pics of the new tankass are also up, i think its the best looking one of all the different designs, kind of a cross between the old alloy ones and the new steel one.
cheers
mike
The turmoil has been around for a few years, and is the most tried-and-true design out there (good ol' single pivot). And the solution is a single pivot bike with linkage to the shock, with a chain pulley on the pivot. It looks to me like the evolution of the night train, lighter and more refined.
i think they look to be coming out with some solid designs, they have a dh to test soon over at www.northshorefreeriders.com, good to see how it rides
totally a Nighttrain refinement
new Solution weighs 10lbs with the shock, pretty damn light if you compare it to my old Clif Cat Hotshot with the jackshaft (frame weighs 15 lbs, I was able to build it up with pretty light parts so the weight of the frame is not a issue)
i always find these statements funny, because think of how much lighter the bike could be!mojodamonkey said:
well man, my bike weighs 43 lbs, rides awesome and that`s all i care about, but if you think that this is funny then I don`t know what to tell ya
What to tell ya' is that your bike would only be 38lbs if it wasn't a heavy ass tank of a frame... 
Not saying it doesn't work well but 15lbs is damn heavy!
Not saying it doesn't work well but 15lbs is damn heavy!
it weighs 15lbs probably because it has a jackshaft and as everybody knows frames with jackshaft have 2 bottom brackets (15lbs includes 2 bottom brackets and cranks).
For jackshaft bikes you could probably use regular cranks instead of the cromo ones...just lock-tite the pedals in there since the threads are going to be backwards. Or use Ti spindles. At that point you're just better off using a BB7-style pulley that were on some of the Holeshot frames. Pretty much does the same thing. 15lbs or not, it's a nice frame. I like it better than the Solution.
yeah jackshafts are only usefull if you want a really small chainring, otherwise you can get a better pedalling bike with the BB7 type setup.ChrisRobin said:
Ultimately the point was just that you can *sort of* make up for having a heavy ass frame by using light parts but it's still not like the frame doesn't weigh 15lbs! Plus light parts cost more and typically compromise strength. This begs the question "is it worth it?"
As long as the owner thinks so...
As long as the owner thinks so...
plus, my 55 lbs bike can crush your spine if you make fun of its weight...punkassean said:
Oh yeah well my 34lb bike will out-climb you, rendering your massive gerth useless, AHAH!!! 
neaky:
55lbs! Good lawd that's a lotta puddin'!!!
neaky:55lbs! Good lawd that's a lotta puddin'!!!