06 Kona & Zocchi
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kona is changing the design on the stinkys... it cant be!... i like the howler though...
man the Kona line is huge!
Anyone know anything about the 888 RCX2 listed on the stinky ?
exactly the same as 12 years ago or however damn long that thing has been around......stinkyboy said:
its only been six years, and it doesnt really look much like this
dirtjumpP.1 said:its only been six years, and it doesnt really look much like this
to tell you the truth, they look quite similar to me
similar, but not "exactly the same"
their sh1t works... why change it?
The howler is the gheyest thing ever. I spit on John Cowan's face.
welll put, why mess with success?
Hey didn't 2005 JUST start. Like I said before this is bad business. Turn people off to the 05 product just as it hit the stores. A shop owner was just bitching about this. People want the 06 stuff and can't sell 05 bikes because companies hype the hell out of next years bikes soooooooooooooo much that the common buyer wants that and not "the old bikes". STUPID!!!
HAHAHA!! That made me laugh!!The Kadvang said:
I remember when new bikes and suspension/parts would only come out during the winter. Now it's like the car industry, they're coming out with 2010 bikes when we're only halfway through 2005!dhtahoe said:
To the guy that posted that pic of the 1999 Stab...you should of posted the 2000 Stab. That would make a clearer point as to how the frame has 'barely' changed.
Just a thought...
Kona is like Michael Jackson...people love to hate him.
Kona is like Michael Jackson...people love to hate him.
ewww orange MTX rims. I can't wait til I see these a few years down the road on a pinkbiker's bike , similar to the orange Hayes calipers Kona coughed up a couple years back.
i dont know. when a frame goes six years virtually unchanged. i know there good frames. but you gotta have a lil innovation here. i do love how they get people into riding though because they are strong cheap workhorses
actually. its been 7 and it does look very similar to the stinky and stabdirtjumpP.1 said:its only been six years, and it doesnt really look much like this
Let's not forget what bike was piloted to 1st place at Worlds by Fabien Barel.
It was a bit different for sure, but the frame originally started as a stock Stab...and the mods aren't out of reach for a privateer...
It was a bit different for sure, but the frame originally started as a stock Stab...and the mods aren't out of reach for a privateer...
well that fact alone prooves that its the rider and not the bike
otherwise we'd be probably seeing a lot more honda wins on the circuit
i just dont like the way konas ride and they havent made anything over the years
to want me as a consumer to buy any of their bikes
otherwise we'd be probably seeing a lot more honda wins on the circuit
i just dont like the way konas ride and they havent made anything over the years
to want me as a consumer to buy any of their bikes
Let's not also forget who rode it (hint: it wasn't me or anyone similarly crap), and that there are dozens of other bikes you can buy that ride really nicely WITHOUT having to be modified like Barel's was.neversummersnow said:
The surprise thing to me are the 10000 hardtails they are making.
But I like this one...
But I like this one...
Just so we're clear, I'm not saying the Stab is the best DH bike out there. It just seemed like a lot of people were acting as though it was a step behind or not up to the standards of many other DH bikes out there.
Yes, it is mostly rider, I think that's clear. In golf we don't say its the club we say its the guy who swung the club....and a new driver wont make you the new long drive champ, but it can help 5-10 percent.
The mods to the frame were mods the normal privateer would be better of withought, it makes the bike less forgiving. (stupid low bb, 7.??" of travel etc)
In the end, I would personally modify many top end DH bikes like my SGS world cup or Turner DHR to give me a lower BB slacker HT angle...its common practice
Yes, it is mostly rider, I think that's clear. In golf we don't say its the club we say its the guy who swung the club....and a new driver wont make you the new long drive champ, but it can help 5-10 percent.
The mods to the frame were mods the normal privateer would be better of withought, it makes the bike less forgiving. (stupid low bb, 7.??" of travel etc)
In the end, I would personally modify many top end DH bikes like my SGS world cup or Turner DHR to give me a lower BB slacker HT angle...its common practice
Where to find more info around the 06 Marz's?
Espen
Espen
Sverre said:
I had one of those. Pretty groovy, mine was orange. not a very light frame (4130 prob.), but good around town bike. I went right back to my fixed gear 700c, and sold it.DRB said:The surprise thing to me are the 10000 hardtails they are making.
But I like this one...
Man some of you guys just don't get it.
Do you ride for the gear, or to ride your bike? Kona is the kind of company that isn't interested in doing the new thing just to make A.D.D. e-bikers happy. They build the bikes they do to ride the terrain that they ride. You want the newest, fanciest suspension design on the block? Grab your brilliant copy of MBA and run down to the store to get it. The Kona bikes work damn well, especially for the money. They do the job they were designed for, and don't compain even after you beat them silly. If you don't like the ride, or want whatever the flavor of the week is, don't buy them.
Change does not always mean for the better.
Do you ride for the gear, or to ride your bike? Kona is the kind of company that isn't interested in doing the new thing just to make A.D.D. e-bikers happy. They build the bikes they do to ride the terrain that they ride. You want the newest, fanciest suspension design on the block? Grab your brilliant copy of MBA and run down to the store to get it. The Kona bikes work damn well, especially for the money. They do the job they were designed for, and don't compain even after you beat them silly. If you don't like the ride, or want whatever the flavor of the week is, don't buy them.
Change does not always mean for the better.
i love a dh bike when you can bounce your way around by the pedal feedback
Barels bike was modified because Barel wanted it set up for his riding style(and it worked didnt it?),just like Intense made custom frames for Kovaric,Kirkaldie,and even Voq had bits changed on her M3 to suit her.thaflyinfatman said:
Are you saying you've never changed anything on a copmplete bike you've bought to suit your riding?
That's treu.. but the models will be there many months (i heard the most expensive models arived in 05dhtahoe said:
) later so it's better to buy the 05 models. Especially the more expensive models are coming later to the stores. My friend had bought a Stinky o5 and ordered it in Jun 04 and it was delivered in oct. 04.
Or mabey not if you are willing to wait. Then you will be the whole summer without a new bike.
And i must say the Kula Supreme i would really love to have it..
The colours are looking even better for 2006 and specs to.
Complete? I was talking about the frame, not the componentry. Yes, I can say I haven't had parts of my frame drilled/machined out, I can say I've never had to alter the geometry of my DH bike (because it hasn't needed it), I can say I haven't had my frame built from lighter tubing than stock, and I can say I don't ride anywhere near as fast as he does. What my point was, is this: If you were looking to buy a racebike/general purpose DHer, would you consider more highly (neglecting other factors) the one that doesn't need modifications (say a Sunday or a DHi) or would you buy the one which DOES need the modifications to be raceworthy? You can turn a Norco/Kona/Banshee/ANYTHING into a decent racebike if you modify it enough (I don't have anything against those companies mentioned, just using them as examples because none of them build "real" racebikes).Percy said:
Barel took a stock frame and drilled some holes in it. Thats a lot different then what other companies do for thier riders.
Its hard to figure out why people slam kona. You ride thier bikes, and they work. Beat them like an ugly child, they work. Neglect them, abuse them, and they just keep going. The tweak them year after year to suit changing riding styles, without abandoning the design that works so well for them.
How is that bad?
Its hard to figure out why people slam kona. You ride thier bikes, and they work. Beat them like an ugly child, they work. Neglect them, abuse them, and they just keep going. The tweak them year after year to suit changing riding styles, without abandoning the design that works so well for them.
How is that bad?