[MorewoodKid]

Amidst the current fork crisis, with every company each having their own problems, what are your thoughts about forks for '07?
What do you think will be the new "hot ticket", what would you want on your own bike and why?

 

[Jeremy R]

I have been running an 07 Fox 40 since May of this year.
I see no reason in changing that for next season.:biggrin:

 

[Fury]

My Boxxer WC Conversion has been working really well. I'm not gonna change it for 07.

 

[Zark]

I'm going to ride whatever has the most hype coupled with the least actual riding experience so I can be a guinea pig for the industry!

 

[Bikael Molton]

what's the crisis? Manipoo sucks as always and Boxxers need rebuilds more often than Marzos. Is that different than usual for 07?

Oh yeah - and 40s look sweet.

-r

 

[FCLinder]

My new bike is coming with a Fox 40 RC2.

 

[jvnixon]

I'm going with the 40 rc2.

 

[ElTORO]

I really don't see a "fork crisis" going on. Manipoo is just Manipoo, Fox fixed the bottom out issue of the 40, MZ is coming out with some interesting stuff. Boxxer's actually feel good. You really can’t go wrong with any choice.

Really everyone is on the ball for 07.

Freeride - MZ 06 888RC2X

Race - Boxxer WC or if I hear good things about the 888Air I might go with that.

 

[OGRipper]

The only crisis, if there is one at all, is the embarassing amount of good forks and resulting difficulty in making a choice.

 

[driftsrfun]

ya, the 40 gets better and better, the 07 feels noticably better than the 06 if that is even possible! Fox doesnt do anything unless its the best, so there is no reason to not run a 40, plus if anyone has a problem with them at races, they are always there to fix it!

 

[MorewoodKid]

My Boxxer WC Conversion has been working really well. I'm not gonna change it for 07.

WC Conversion?

 

[MorewoodKid]

Sorry, not "Crisis" so to speak, but just each with their own problems and comprimises. Guess that is not really any different from the way things have been in the past... It just seems to have caught a lot of the limelight lately...

 

[Rip]

Had one crisis solved already.

Went with a Rock SHox argyle for the hardtail.

 

[S.K.C.]

Sorry, not "Crisis" so to speak, but just each with their own problems and comprimises. Guess that is not really any different from the way things have been in the past... It just seems to have caught a lot of the limelight lately...

No, you are correct - it is a crisis.

Wolf Blitzer is doing a report on it tomorrow night.:biggrin:

'07 Forks, whose thinking what?

Personally - I'm thinking of a number between 1 and 888.

 

[jvnixon]

WC Conversion?

Probably means he had a Boxxer Team and upgraded the fork to have internal WC valving

 

[arboc!]

im getting a fox talas 36 for my new dirtbag

 

[Fury]

Probably means he had a Boxxer Team and upgraded the fork to have internal WC valving

Sort of correct: I just swapped the spring leg out for an air-spring leg (with air internals). There is no valving in that leg.

 

[Daver]

Personally - I'm thinking of a number between 1 and 888.

40?

:biggrin:

 

[skinny mike]

probably going to replace my 888 with a boxxer of sorts providing i have a dh bike next season. even with the light springs and it built for my weight, the fork just felt like poo. pretty much all of the new boxxers that i have ridden have felt amazing compared to what i was running.

 

[bballe336]

I'll be on an 04 boxxer team. It feels good and I have little to no money.

 

[Bicyclist]

I'm thinking another Boxxer for me next season. If I can try a 888 Air and I like it I'll consider it but my Boxxer has been good to me save for maintainance issues, but that's OK for me.

 

[Tootrikky]

ya, the 40 gets better and better, the 07 feels noticably better than the 06 if that is even possible! Fox doesnt do anything unless its the best, so there is no reason to not run a 40, plus if anyone has a problem with them at races, they are always there to fix it!

Yeah I'll be running a 40 next season (actually same one for the 3 rd season)

So what did Fox change on the 40's?

 

[Bicyclist]

More bottom out resistance on the new ones. Other than that it's only stickers.

 

[HRDTLBRO]

The entire 07 Fox line looks awesome...the xc stuff...

 

[Tootrikky]

More bottom out resistance on the new ones. Other than that it's only stickers.

No offense, but are you sure? What did they physically change to accomplish this?

 

[Bicyclist]

No offense, but are you sure? What did they physically change to accomplish this?

Yup. The bottom out cone (I guess) is just different to give it more resistance at the end. Other than that it's the same internally.

 

[Tootrikky]

Yup. The bottom out cone (I guess) is just different to give it more resistance at the end. Other than that it's the same internally.

Weird I asked the fox guy at Crankworx (the older guy think he's been doing the circuit a few yrs) if I could send r in to get it to ramp up more like the new ones do, and he said they haven't changed a thing since they came out. I hear a different story every time....lol

 

[InsideMan]

Probably means he had a Boxxer Team and upgraded the fork to have internal WC valving

does this meen no spring in the team conversion? I wonder if that would be the way to go. I Cant decide between a WC and Team.

 

[Bicyclist]

does this meen no spring in the team conversion? I wonder if that would be the way to go. I Cant decide between a WC and Team.

Yes. The only difference between the Team and WC is that the WC has different graphics and an air as oppossed to coil spring.

You need a new honed stancion and a Solo Air kit, then your Team is basically a WC sans graphics for cheaper.

 

[InsideMan]

would like to see what the 888 WC is all about. How much does that thing weigh?

 

[Transcend]

Weird I asked the fox guy at Crankworx (the older guy think he's been doing the circuit a few yrs) if I could send r in to get it to ramp up more like the new ones do, and he said they haven't changed a thing since they came out. I hear a different story every time....lol

The forks HAVE some changes for 2007. As mentioned, the bottom out system is completely different, and much more customizeable.

 

[Tootrikky]

The forks HAVE changes for 2007. As mentioned, the bottom out system is completely different, and much more customizeable.

Thanks for clearing that up. That will make the 40 pretty much unbeatable.

Word

 

[Transcend]

Thanks for clearing that up. That will make the 40 pretty much unbeatable.

Word

Ya, it was designed for the heavier guys who want a less linear fork. From what I understand however, it still comes in the stock place, so will need to be adjusted.

I never had any real complaints about it, but then again I also run a ridiculously light weight spring I got hooked up with. I like my fork SOFT. Even then, I only bottom it out once or twice a run.

edit: to be clear, i am not sure if it is user serviceable or not. I know 2006 was not, but 2007 i have heard various rumours, and haven't pulled mine apart to check.

 

[Tootrikky]

Ya, it was designed for the heavier guys who want a less linear fork. From what I understand however, it still comes in the stock place, so will need to be adjusted.

I never had any real complaints about it, but then again I also run a ridiculously light weight spring I got hooked up with. I like my fork SOFT. Even then, I only bottom it out once or twice a run.

edit: to be clear, i am not sure if it is user serviceable or not. I know 2006 was not, but 2007 i have heard various rumours, and haven't pulled mine apart to check.

Ah just what I thought! Fox heard the complaints and did something about it, even though in reality the original set-up is optimum for most riders anyway. Man I love Fox! It's freaky though cause it seem like all 4 of the suspension manufactures are really in tune with what the riders want for 07, where as a couple of yrs ago is was hit and miss.

 

[Transcend]

Ya they can't just go and ignore that many people complaining. Ideally, the way it comes is probably the best setup for most people. Way too many riders are to worried about bottoming out in a run, they think they should never bottom out, which clearly isn't the case.

in this case, you can simply set it up how you want, but they still ship the way they think it shoud be used (no matter what spring weight you need).

 

[black noise]

You can't go wrong with the 04 Super T. Ultimate in downhill race performance.

 

[PatBranch]

That's what i'll be thowin on my bike soon.

 

[Udi]

The only crisis, if there is one at all, is the embarassing amount of good forks and resulting difficulty in making a choice.

Spot on.
Apart from manitou, the big three others have all got topend forks that would perform equally well IMO.

Boxxer WC (2767g, 560mm A-C height, 203mm travel)
888SL ATA (2950g, 578mm A-C height, 200mm travel)
Fox 40RC2 (3120g, 571mm A-C height, 203mm travel)

The 888WC is heavier at 3150g (claimed - I reckon it's more), and IMO there is no point buying one over an SL which is cheaper, lighter, looks better, and won't be plagued by spring rub. I'd love to try it (SL) and I think it'll be a sweet fork for 07.

The Travis feels fine, but a few had damper issues and they seem overly tall too.

The Boxxer is stilll the lightest and lowest fork, has a larger range of compression damping than the competition - and therefore is still the winner IMO.

 

[vitox]

udi that 560mm boxxer a-c figure, what sort of tire clearance 2,5? 2,8? ive got a 40rc2 here and its 3,18kg btw.

 

[Udi]

I just rechecked and you'll have to disregard it. The air boxxer likes to sit into its travel 5mm or more at lower pressures it seems, hard to get an accurate A-C measurement. I'm pretty sure the rockshox official figure is 568mm though (can someone confirm)?

But mine is as low as it'll go (wipers are 1-2mm from crown at bottom out) and nowhere near tyre contact from what I could see, so your limiting factor will probably just be the crown/wipers I reckon. I'm running maxxis minion 2.5.