[fiddy_ryder]

www.ride-this.com has em posted.. lyrics starting at $900 and totems at $1000.. un-fycking-believable...

http://www.ride-this.com/search.php?search=man&value=119&bc=czForks

 

[skatetokil]

thats expensive. give them 6 months.

 

[fuzzynutz]

that seems reasonable

average joe freerider vs. rockshox: :nuts:

 

[fiddy_ryder]

ive seen barely used 66rc2x's go for less than 600.. why on earth would people pay for these RS forks...

 

[dG video]

ive seen barely used 66rc2x's go for less than 600.. why on earth would people pay for these RS forks...

Because they don't want to skimp out and buy a zoke.

 

[julian_dh]

boxxers look unchanged, i cant wait till they upgrade their dh forks to the beef and looks of the totem and lyric 38-40 mill stantions and those gangsta colour schmes.

 

[blue]

SRAM still doesn't have them on their site...what's the Domain?

 

[seismic]

that seems reasonable

average joe freerider vs. rockshox: :nuts:

 

[oly]

BTI has them listed, but not available...

http://www.bti-usa.com/list.asp?cat=FK&sec=FKSF&mfr=RS

main site: www.bti-usa.com

 

[DHS]

just cause its on some online bike shop doesn't mean they are actually out yet

 

[fiddy_ryder]

just cause its on some online bike shop doesn't mean they are actually out yet

i got in an email advert.. my experience with ride-this has been good. if they say available they usually are, meaning they can get them from teh distro.. sooo maybe yes maybe no... more than likely any day/week would be my guess..

 

[bikerpunk98199]

boxxers look unchanged, i cant wait till they upgrade their dh forks to the beef and looks of the totem and lyric 38-40 mill stantions and those gangsta colour schmes.

i have my 07 boxxer team the only dif is the rebound knob is shorter.

 

[DHS]

i have my 07 boxxer team the only dif is the rebound knob is shorter.

um that was changed on the mid 06 release ones aswell. so still doubtful that you got a 2007

 

[julian_dh]

yea i have one with the shorter knob aswell
the changes to the team are external preload which seems uneeded

 

[bballe336]

Why is the 2007 boxxer WC $200 more than this years?

 

[DHCorky]

Why is the 2007 boxxer WC $200 more than this years?

I was wondering why the 07 Boxxer WC was more also. I have the 07 on my bike right now and they changed nothing.

 

[gemini2k]

Why is the 2007 boxxer WC $200 more than this years?

didn't you hear? inflation was like 20 percent this year!

 

[vitox]

looks like rockshox is either feeling the american dollar falling or they think their forks are now worth anywhere from 5% to 15% more, my guess is option A.
some nice but spendy products they are coming out in the AM to FR part of their spectrum.

 

[vitox]

btw anyone have pictures of this speedlube thingy on the lowers of totems?
sounds interesting.

 

[dropmachine]

I was going to wait and post this on my site, but what the hell, people need clarity.

It amazes me that people bitch and whine about the price of the RockShox forks, basiing thier opinions solely on past pricepoints. Then there are those that complain about the price of the Totem and Lyric, pointing out "thats a lot to pay for a single crown."

First point. Just because the Pike was a relative steal, doesn't mean that ROckSHox is a budget company. The new singlecrowns are HIGH END FORKS, and are built damn well. They are designed well, have excellent build quality, metal guts, and the new Mission Control stuff is bloody awesome. Adjustable high and low speed compression, rebound, air pressure, travel adjust, floodgate, Maxle, bulged lowers...i mean come on, does that sound like a budget fork to you? NO! So why should it be priced as such?

Second, where does it say that a forks value is determined solely by the number of crowns it has? The new single crowns offer way more in terms of adjustability then the Boxxers do, yet people complain about the price, just cause its a single crown.

I feel sorry for bike companies sometimes, I really do. The web just sucks for them.

 

[Bicyclist]

I was going to wait and post this on my site, but what the hell, people need clarity.

It amazes me that people bitch and whine about the price of the RockShox forks, basiing thier opinions solely on past pricepoints. Then there are those that complain about the price of the Totem and Lyric, pointing out "thats a lot to pay for a single crown."

First point. Just because the Pike was a relative steal, doesn't mean that ROckSHox is a budget company. The new singlecrowns are HIGH END FORKS, and are built damn well. They are designed well, have excellent build quality, metal guts, and the new Mission Control stuff is bloody awesome. Adjustable high and low speed compression, rebound, air pressure, travel adjust, floodgate, Maxle, bulged lowers...i mean come on, does that sound like a budget fork to you? NO! So why should it be priced as such?

Second, where does it say that a forks value is determined solely by the number of crowns it has? The new single crowns offer way more in terms of adjustability then the Boxxers do, yet people complain about the price, just cause its a single crown.

I feel sorry for bike companies sometimes, I really do. The web just sucks for them.

Yeah, but look at the price of comparable forks. Not sayin' they're not badass, I want some, just sayin' they're pricey. You do get what you pay for I guess.

 

[blue]

Rockshox has caught on when everyone started calling their new motion control stuff "cheap Fox".

 

[Lanky]

Yeah, but look at the price of comparable forks. Not sayin' they're not badass, I want some, just sayin' they're pricey. You do get what you pay for I guess.

no one in the bike industry is making a killing on what they sell

 

[TheInedibleHulk]

Why is the 2007 boxxer WC $200 more than this years?

I'm trying to figure that out myself. Especially since it made no sense for them to charge 1400 for a world cup this year when the only difference from the team was 200 bucks in parts.

 

[dropmachine]

btw anyone have pictures of this speedlube thingy on the lowers of totems?
sounds interesting.

There are pics in the Dropmachine Gallery of the speedlube ports.

 

[dropmachine]

Yeah, but look at the price of comparable forks. Not sayin' they're not badass, I want some, just sayin' they're pricey. You do get what you pay for I guess.

Yeah but who can compare? Fox can. Marz can't. The Z1 I tried this year was awful. Same with Manitou. Break it down, and look at it peice by peice, and Fox and RockShox are in the exact same range, and offering the same stuff. Where RS can't compare directly to Fox is in the shorter singlecrowns, but thier pricing is accordingly cheaper.

 

[davep]

btw anyone have pictures of this speedlube thingy on the lowers of totems?
sounds interesting.

here http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/887303/

can also be seen on this page http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech/?id=2006/features/sram_freeride_launch

 

[TheInedibleHulk]

I have no problem with the pricing of the new forks. A whole lot of new engineering, design, and R&D went inot the new big singlecrowns. The totem especially is really a new breed of fork, and doesnt have a comprable fork from any other manufacturer. The Lyric is comprable to a 36 or 66, and is priced fairly close. What I dont get is the price of the boxxers. Like I said before the pricing didnt make sense last year, and now it makes even less sense. I have a boxxer team and it's a great fork, but the boxxer is a super simple fork and has only had minor evolutionary changes every year for god knows how long. You have to expect high pricing for a new product like the totem, but for an old standard like the boxxer, it doesnt make any sense. Maybe they are trying to offset the price of developing the new forks but upping prices throughout the line.

 

[dropmachine]

Maybe thier manufacturing costs went up? I know there were some issues with consistancy with the Boxxer, particularly the world cup. Perhaps they went with a better factory, new machines, upgraded things, blah blah. Who knows.

 

[NateH]

Yeah, but look at the price of comparable forks.

Um the same web site has 07 fox 36 talas rc2's for $985
Travis's for $900, and Marzocchi 66's for $840. Not hugely lower and none of them have as much R&D and development in the last couple years as the Totem and Lyrik. Everyone of the forks I just listed has its problems so I can see Rock Shox trying to one-up them and having to charge a little more. Just my opinion but maybe we should wait till there is a little more time and experience with the new forks before calling them out. And half the people on rm love the foes fork and that thing costs what...? But we can all just calm down and pick up a steal of a deal on the 05 boxxer world cup for only $1400!!!

 

[Jm_]

The totem especially is really a new breed of fork, and doesnt have a comprable fork from any other manufacturer.

How do you figure? The 07 marz 66s have 180mm of travel, the SL version is lighter than any totem listed with infinitely adjustable travel, you have an ETA model to knock the travel way down for climbing, you have the RC2x with adjustable end stroke compression and low speed, and so on (all of the high end 66s have the RC2 cart). Even the RC2x version is lighter than the max weight posted for the totem (6.3lbs). I'm pretty stoked to have some comparable products finally, but I fail to see how this fork is a "new breed". RS is really stoked about finally using a decent shimmed damper, but it's something that other companies found out a long time ago.

The only big difference is the price.

RS is simply emmulating what Fox and marzocchi have done with the 36 and 66 forks respectively.

 

[offtheedge]

at that price point they're going to have to be unbelievable for me not to buy a fox

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

If the totem rides as well as the 36 (and from the sounds of it, it does), i dont see why the price is that out of line. It is essentially a burley 36, 40mm lowers, 1.5 steerer...I own 2 36 Talas's and love them to death but i could see where they would be pushed to thier limits in some terrain. This is just a step up...

my $.02

 

[offtheedge]

If the totem rides as well as the 36 (and from the sounds of it, it does), i dont see why the price is that out of line. It is essentially a burley 36, 40mm lowers, 1.5 steerer...I own 2 36 Talas's and love them to death but i could see where they would be pushed to thier limits in some terrain. This is just a step up...

my $.02

true, but at what weight? is the Totem comperable to a Talas or a Van?

i guess i just wasn't as blown away by my 426 as i expected. My 36 and 40 on the other hand have gone above and beyond.

just my $.02

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

true, but at what weight? is the Totem comperable to a Talas or a Van?

i guess i just wasn't as blown away by my 426 as i expected. My 36 and 40 on the other hand have gone above and beyond.

just my $.02

The weight should be higher it is a larger fork...

As for your 426, it is a completely different fork not even in the same class as the 36 and forty...Apples and Oranges.

The new stuff should be pretty tight.

 

[offtheedge]

The weight should be higher it is a larger fork...

As for your 426, it is a completely different fork not even in the same class as the 36 and forty...Apples and Oranges.

The new stuff should be pretty tight.

Oh, I'm not compairing the pike to the 36 or 40, but to me the fox forks have always had far better adjustment and general feel than anything else, and what seemed to be less hype and lingo.

and I'm sure the RS stuff will be sweet, they have been doing this for a while.

 

[bballe336]

at that price point they're going to have to be unbelievable for me not to buy a fox

The 36 is a light FR/trail fork. That's how Fox classifies it. The Totem is meant pretty much as a full on FR fork, it's in the realm of a 66 except bigger, stiffer, and IMO probably better.

 

[offtheedge]

The 36 is a light FR/trail fork. That's how Fox classifies it. The Totem is meant pretty much as a full on FR fork, it's in the realm of a 66 except bigger, stiffer, and IMO probably better.

that may be, but I've seen a 36 do everything from light trail to racing dh.

I'm not selling them short, but for the same money it will have to be better in some way ie, price, weight or performance for me not to buy a fox again.

I guess we'll see.

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

Yeah the 36 is incredible that is why i have 2 of them, but they arent a big full on freeride fork like mentioned above...I'm a fox mega fan as well, but i think the totem is going to rock.

 

[James]

I was going to wait and post this on my site, but what the hell, people need clarity.

It amazes me that people bitch and whine about the price of the RockShox forks, basiing thier opinions solely on past pricepoints. Then there are those that complain about the price of the Totem and Lyric, pointing out "thats a lot to pay for a single crown."

First point. Just because the Pike was a relative steal, doesn't mean that ROckSHox is a budget company. The new singlecrowns are HIGH END FORKS, and are built damn well. They are designed well, have excellent build quality, metal guts, and the new Mission Control stuff is bloody awesome. Adjustable high and low speed compression, rebound, air pressure, travel adjust, floodgate, Maxle, bulged lowers...i mean come on, does that sound like a budget fork to you? NO! So why should it be priced as such?

Second, where does it say that a forks value is determined solely by the number of crowns it has? The new single crowns offer way more in terms of adjustability then the Boxxers do, yet people complain about the price, just cause its a single crown.

I feel sorry for bike companies sometimes, I really do. The web just sucks for them.

Man, you just shot to the top of my "cool posters" list on RM!
Not to mention your bomb-ass site. Keep it coming...