dhkid said:basically the cables in a sram system moves twice the distance a shimano system would on each shift. so that means less force for each shift, its more precise and there is more room for error. thats why pll talk about it staying perfect for longer.
bballe336 said:That didn't make much sense.
I feel it has more to do with the way the derailleurs and shifters are designed than the accuation ratio. The shifters click back really fast and feel crisp and they shift quickly. The derailleurs have a stiffer spring in them than the shimanos and add to that crisp quick shifting feel. And the sram derailleurs don't explode and leave dents in your chainstays.
dhkid said:basically the cables in a sram system moves twice the distance a shimano system would on each shift. so that means less force for each shift, its more precise and there is more room for error. thats why pll talk about it staying perfect for longer.
IronDad said:Also, (and this may not matter to many people), 1:1 systems are easier to tune...
You've got it backwards. The barrel adjusters are even more precise and more effective for fine tuning as they are pulling less cable at the derrailleur/shifter.big-ted said:No. No they're not. If a derrailleur is a certain amount out, you need to move twice the cable to correct it, so your barrel adjusters are less effective than on a Shimano system. This problem is compounded by the fact that Sram insist on omitting the barrel adjuster on some rear mechs, leaving you with half the adjustment to do twice the work.
I agree that 2:1 is a good idea in terms of staying sweet for longer, but it's not without it's shortcomings.
touché...Transcend said:You've got it backwards. The barrel adjusters are even more precise and more effective for fine tuning as they are pulling less cable at the derrailleur/shifter.
It just means you have to not be lazy and use a friggin allen key when setting it up the first time. Oh wait...you have to anyways.
DIRTWRKS said:One huge advantage with SRAM is the way the cable is routed through the rear derauilleur, eliminates that big loop of cable housing of the Shimano set up. Less chance of getting that caught up in something.
It just seems that on all the DH bikes I have had, the SRAM works better.
i never realized that haha. but now i just have one more reason to like SRAM 10X better than shimano.DIRTWRKS said:One huge advantage with SRAM is the way the cable is routed through the rear derauilleur, eliminates that big loop of cable housing of the Shimano set up. Less chance of getting that caught up in something.
It just seems that on all the DH bikes I have had, the SRAM works better.
At least you just said that to use the word.. because rollermajigs are still useless compared to the Sram system.Darkreaper said:There's always the avid rollamajig to eliminate the 'shimano loop'
I run SRAM, but I just like the word rollamajig too much to miss a chance to mention it
Has anyone ever actually done this? Wtf would you snag it on? You'd have to be riding through shrubberies to catch the thing.DIRTWRKS said:Less chance of getting that caught up in something.
Darkreaper said:There's always the avid rollamajig to eliminate the 'shimano loop'
I've destroyed 3 XT deraillers this way, so yeah... to say the least.Smelly said:Has anyone ever actually done this? Wtf would you snag it on? You'd have to be riding through shrubberies to catch the thing.
they had the rollermajig before avid was sram.mud'n'sweat said:It's funny seeing as how avid is sram, and sram had to develop something to help with shimano's little issue.