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$18,000 for 19 mph over the speed limit? Gotta love that socialism...

spookydave

Monkey
Sep 6, 2001
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BurlySurly said:
Well it does, actually. WTF is your point?
Just giving the people that are posting the down with the wealthy and give the OH POOR ME's a reason to hate me I guess.

Now that you ask about my point well......
Why is anyone reading this poor? They can read, write and I would think have some computer skill at the very min. No reason to be poor.
Now if they are still young or in school that's different. They are not poor, they have not even started yet.

Ok, flame on
 

vecsus

Chimp
Sep 18, 2004
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I find it sad that so many of you agree with income based fines. Why should someone with the talent, intelligence, or initiative to make a high wage be charged more than an idiot for committing the same offense? And where would you stop with that sort of system? Why not make the investment banker that makes 500k per year pay 10X the amount for a #2 at McDonalds than the lazy fekker that sits on his ass reading hustler all day?
 

Ciaran

Fear my banana
Apr 5, 2004
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So Cal
BurlySurly said:
**** that! You should not be penalized for success IMO.
And success should not allow one to live "above" the law either. He knew the risk he was taking. Too bad we don't do that here. Then maybe I would get cut off less by the mercedes suv driving housewife.
 

BurlyShirley

Rex Grossman Will Rise Again
Jul 4, 2002
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TN
Ciaran said:
And success should not allow one to live "above" the law either. He knew the risk he was taking. Too bad we don't do that here. Then maybe I would get cut off less by the mercedes suv driving housewife.
You're really bitter about not having any money huh? Do mercedes do more damage when they cut you off than an average minivan? You're a communist by the way.
 

vecsus

Chimp
Sep 18, 2004
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Ciaran said:
And success should not allow one to live "above" the law either. He knew the risk he was taking. Too bad we don't do that here. Then maybe I would get cut off less by the mercedes suv driving housewife.
The reason we don't (and won't) do that in the US is because it violates the equality that we strive for. Speeding is speeding. I don't give a rats ass how much or how little a person makes. Rich or poor, if you commit a crime the penalty has to be the same. To do otherwise obviates the incentive to make more money then the mouth-breathing mullet-heads of this world. And I agree with BurlySurly, you are a communist.
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
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vecsus said:
I find it sad that so many of you agree with income based fines. Why should someone with the talent, intelligence, or initiative to make a high wage be charged more than an idiot for committing the same offense? And where would you stop with that sort of system? Why not make the investment banker that makes 500k per year pay 10X the amount for a #2 at McDonalds than the lazy fekker that sits on his ass reading hustler all day?
You're an idiot and the reason is cuz you ain't paying attention.



How about this... instead of making people pay a cash fine, everyone does community service? Say, two hours for each 5mph increment over the limit?
 

McT

Monkey
Sep 2, 2004
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Texas
Think about it, if that guy has 3 million Euro's in his bank account

Thats

3,000,000
Compared to...
18,000

'bout 1/15

Yes, a pretty big drop in the bucket, but does the millionare care? probably not, he'll just remake that much in a week or two. Who's to say he ONLY has 3m in his account, anyway? Its could be closer to 70 million, in which case, he probably wipes his butt with $50's.
 

Skookum

bikey's is cool
Jul 26, 2002
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LordOpie said:
You're an idiot and the reason is cuz you ain't paying attention.



How about this... instead of making people pay a cash fine, everyone does community service? Say, two hours for each 5mph increment over the limit?
nice angle i guess your a communist too for bringing it up though.

i say all you people who are worried about all this communist talk should just step back and relax, all the rich people who you so care about are being very much coddled by government and judicial systems i assure you..... i'm glad your all sticking up for the underdog though uh euurh i think.....
 

fonseca

Monkey
May 2, 2002
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Virginia
vecsus said:
Why should someone with the talent, intelligence, or initiative to make a high wage be charged more than an idiot for committing the same offense?
I think it's a good idea myself. A fine is punishment for exceeding the speed limit. A multi-millionaire could care less about a $200 speeding ticket, but it can hurt the average family man struggling to pay whatever is being paid. And how do you know their high wages have have anything to do with talent, intelligence, or initiative? And someone only making $35k a year is a f*cking moron I suppose... :rolleyes:

vecsus said:
Why not make the investment banker that makes 500k per year pay 10X the amount for a #2 at McDonalds than the lazy fekker that sits on his ass reading hustler all day?
I thought we were discussing financial punishment for breaking the speed limit.

vecsus said:
Rich or poor, if you commit a crime the penalty has to be the same.
A crime? In most states speeding isn't even a misdemeanor. The fine is designed to be punishment. Sounds like it actually is in Finland.

vecsus said:
To do otherwise obviates the incentive to make more money then the mouth-breathing mullet-heads of this world.
Must be nice being able to look down on poor people from way up there. I guess you're right, if they're not rich, then they're all lazy, mouth-breathing mullet-head fekkers that sit on their asses reading hustler all day.
 

mr.terrible

Chimp
Aug 24, 2004
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Finland
vecsus said:
The reason we don't (and won't) do that in the US is because it violates the equality that we strive for. Speeding is speeding. I don't give a rats ass how much or how little a person makes. Rich or poor, if you commit a crime the penalty has to be the same. To do otherwise obviates the incentive to make more money then the mouth-breathing mullet-heads of this world. And I agree with BurlySurly, you are a communist.
Yes, we are communists bomb the **** out of Finland asap :D. Enough of this communist crap already!! Please tell me how these kind of punishments violate equality? Actually in my mind the finnish system makes people more equal... and mind you speeding isn't really a crime in the right sense of the word, it is just a violation. When you commit a real crime it dosn't matter how rich or poor you are, Y're still getting the same punishment. In the nut shell the finnish income related violation fine system is like Robin Hood - takes away from the rich and gives to the poor. hurraaayy!!!! :D