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Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by chillindrdude, Mar 1, 2013.
hope they put out geo numbers soon...and comes in 650B *i kid i kid*
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Under downtube routing = fail.
Looks awesome, though.
ah bugger, just when i was starting to entertain the thought of a new trailbike...
yet another bike to consider as my AM/enduro ride for spring...
Carbine or Tracer 275
Pivot 575 Carbon
Spec Enduro 29r
Geometry with 150mm fork ( 520mm AC )
High - HA-67.62 BB- 13.48/342.5mm WB -44.0/1120.0 mm CS - 430mm/16.9" SA 72.8
Low - HA-66.5 BB-13.00/330.0mm WB- 44.25/1124.09mm CS - 433.97mm/17.08" SA 71.76
Shock: 7.875 x 2.25
142 x 12mm rear axle
edit: these were the numbers on the first round of prototype spy shots a while back, so may have changed?
I need to talk to someone about a raise.
Where's the info? Their home page shows a last update of 2009 http://www.evil-bikes.com/, twitter feed is spam with the last update of 2011 https://twitter.com/Evil_Bikes, their facebook page doesn't seem to show it https://www.facebook.com/EvilBikes .
Wouldn't hold my breath for this thing to release anytime soon.
Available to buy from April 2013...
who would buy a bike from them? Isn't their rep tarnished enough. I mean their website hasn't been updated since 2009!!!
Somebody should update their website with the following:
Hi we are evil! Dave weagel founded us and sold us. He designed our Single Pivot suspension system. We had them built in a ****ty factory in Taiwan and then they broke. Now we have the Carbonz and you shall all bow down and suck our dicks.
that company has no cred in my opinion.
You need to practice holding your breath so you can handle having their dick jammed down your throat.
With 2 posts racked up so far on here, assuming this is your second, what in your right mind made you think that this might be a great way to start off your time here? You're post is inaccurate, rude, and lacking substantiating evidence for your claims.
Let's try this again:
DELTA is a linkage system designed by DW - check. Evil now, is not the same as Evil from "then", naming rights can be purchased, just as Spooky has done as well. Two power-house East Coast companies have found new life again in new hands.
The Revolts were built in perfectly good factories. There was an issue at the factory, yes, but the design of the the frame is superb and the new carbon Undeads are even better in terms of durability and ride characteristics.
While the internet may seem like the world to you, many people have real jobs, like running a bike company and making sure they have a product to write about, versus putting up a website filled with hot air, so to speak. So before you start talking about homoerotic practices, and making lame comments about something you have no in depth knowledge about, take a minute to reevaluate how you spend your time and energy.
I took some time out of my day to fill in these gaps because I'm tired of encountering drivel on the internet, much like what you wrote, especially when it is aimed at hurting people I know personally and respect.
You're source for information of an informative nature,
From the early photos I would've sworn it was slacker than that - even my Five is slacker than that.... (by a massive .5 of a degree)
While it may have been phrased a bit crudely, in all honesty I don't see what was false about his statement.
If you want people to take your business seriously, keep your website updated with current products, news and support information. I don't live on the east coast, and I haven't seen any evil bikes on the show room floor of my local bike shops, why should I buy their product if I can't learn about it?
If you want people to take your business seriously, don't burn people who have shelled out good money for your bikes with defective products and insanely long wait times for a replacement.
The statement that Dave Weagle founded and sold Evil is true.
The statement that he designed their suspension system and that it is pretty much a single pivot is also true.
The statement that the bikes broke is true, but whether or not the factory in Taiwan was ****ty or just didn't get run through the US QA ringer when starting production is still up in the air.
The statement that their bikes are carbon is true but I don't think they have requested fellatio from anyone yet.
I'd say most of his points are valid.
I've heard that before.
Dear Fro Biker,
2 post's does not mean I am new to Mountain bikes or even this forum. I knew Evil before evil had a single product. When it was just a cool name and some guys from boston with t-shirts. When Evil meant something.
Things change, People sell their company's and Move on to smarter ways of making money.
The Legacy of Evil is Dead. It is nothing more then a cool name now. I have nothing personal against the new owners but If they cannot even update their website who is going to take that seriously?
yes their new Carbon looks extremely cool. In fact it might even be one of the nicest bikes on the market. Nobody knows for sure. However from what I can tell they are a total crap shoot. Their recent history is not going to help them win me over.
It is a free market and they are more then welcome to compete with the 100's of top notch brands that have customer service and up to date websites. Good luck to them. This is also an internet forum where I am openly allowed to voice my opinion as are you. You can choose to reply again but I'm done with this topic.
^^^ at least they didn't take the nemesis project approach, all website, no product.
There are a few people on here (myself included) that have been riding Undeads for awhile without problems. I've been riding mine since July last year; its been crashed in rocks, cased on jumps and shuttled all around Western Canada.Its no crap shoot buying one.
i still LOL every time i see westcoasthucker's avatar though
Evil has another website that I happened upon a couple of months back. It had the Undead info and was much better, though still looked like a work in progress. I can't for the life of me find it now.
No mention of where to buy one yet.
Raingauge, where did you buy your Undead?
They are on sale and in stock (M and L) at Fanatik Bike: www.fanatikbike.com
Boom! Found it - http://evil-bikes.com/wordpress/
The info is still wonky, but the Insurgent and Uprising are on there.
whats the difference between the insurgent and the uprising?
the website's not really working for me it all shows up the data of the undead once i click on the different frames
Mine was a warranty frame. I know Dunbar Cycles in Vancouver have some.
I know Udi bought one. I'm not sure where from tho.
looks like the site is not ready yet.
Yep, but if you check out the pictures there are some pretty distinct differences. Guessing the Insurgent is around 120/130mm.
yeah, I don't usually go gaga for gear, but holy crap what a awesome looking rig
Very excited for Kevin and for owning a uprising.
I wish you still lived up here. I'd love a test-fit/demo. I promise I won't eat sh#t on it...
last non cripple to ride his undead ended up smashing a tree
I'm kinda leaning the same way as you. I mean I'm sure the product is/will be good, but how can you really function properly WITHOUT a website??? That is beyond me.
Some will point out Hadley, but I also think it's stupid they don't even have a presence on the web. I mean it's not 1997 and you don't need a computer/coder wizard to set up something decent.
I, as well as most people who just want good sh*t, don't care if Evil, Hadley, Santa Cruz, whoever don't have a website.
They make awesome sh*t, if you dont want it, dont buy it; claim that higher ground and bite your tongue.
nor do you need to be albert fvcking einstein to pick up the phone and call hadley...
besides, once upon a time i seem to recall hearing that hubs aren't their primary business...
some info is in a different language and has a link to Hulu for the "warranty frames are in"
all the models look the same save for a rear fender
The guy has a point though, doesn't he. The longer this saga drags on the more of a joke it becomes in the industry and less likely any of us are of actually seeing an Evil bike (c. 2013) ever getting out onto a trail near us anytime soon.