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2005 Enduro

binary visions

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MMcG said:
Is that a remote reservoir on custom 5th element coil on this one??

This Enduro SX is pretty cool looking too - but I'm not sure I'm sold on the bent downtube action - what function does that bend serve?
Never seen a 5th coil with remote reservoir.. Interesting.

Bent downtube.. perhaps because you get more weld area between the downtube and the top tube?
 

syadasti

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binary visions said:
Never seen a 5th coil with remote reservoir.. Interesting.

Bent downtube.. perhaps because you get more weld area between the downtube and the top tube?
It was made first for the Swinger on 2004 Giants (which is basically a 5th):

 

binary visions

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syadasti said:
It was made first for the Swinger on 2004 Giants (which is basically a 5th):
I knew about the Swinger with the remote... They made an air version with the remote reservoir too, if my memory serves me. Just never seen the Progressive shock with one...

I think the bent downtube is aesthetically pleasing, but it probably serves no useful purpose.
 

Zark

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DVNT said:
anyone throw this one out there yet????
MMcg had a link to it above. Did you notice the subdued headtube forgings on the SX, very "demo" :thumb:

The SX trail with the remote res. 5th. That is pretty core!
 

Zark

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binary visions said:
I think the bent downtube is aesthetically pleasing, but it probably serves no useful purpose.
So quick to judge ;). It allows room so your knobs on the fork don't clock the downtube :D
 
MMcG said:



Is that a remote reservoir on custom 5th element coil on this one??

http://bb.nsmb.com/newforum/attachment.php?postid=797139

This Enduro SX is pretty cool looking too - but I'm not sure I'm sold on the bent downtube action - what function does that bend serve?
My guess is its two-fold.

Like binary visions said one is probably to get more weld area going on the head tube. The other I would think for strength. I imagine that type of tube shape is better at resisting the moments put on the head tube by the fork when landing. Of course that would seem to argue against it in a frontal imact, but no frame can really take a big hit well that way anyway.
 

punkassean

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azonicbruce said:
Holy Moly! Why do you guys keep posting cool bikes?! I keep thinking I've made up my mind but then you just keep them coming.


What is this bike again? Availability?
This bike is the Enduro SX "trail" it gets the full 6" of travel but with coils f&r as opposed to the SX "race" which gets 4.2 rear and between 4-6" front with air shocks...
 

Tame Ape

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azonicbruce said:
Holy Moly! Why do you guys keep posting cool bikes?! I keep thinking I've made up my mind but then you just keep them coming.


What is this bike again? Availability?

Wow.

That bike reminds me of a fabled time in sports when elastic was introduced into socks. Suddenly everyone rocked knee-high tubes socks and called it style.
It look bad then, it looks bad now.

The fact that they can affordably do all this neat machineing and metal manipulation is pretty sweet, but they really missed the boat of this one. Who ever ok'd that paint job really needs to have his 'review' sooner then later.

Trickle-down style doesn't always work... :mumble:
 

Damn True

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azonicbruce said:
My guess is its two-fold.

Like binary visions said one is probably to get more weld area going on the head tube. The other I would think for strength. I imagine that type of tube shape is better at resisting the moments put on the head tube by the fork when landing. Of course that would seem to argue against it in a frontal imact, but no frame can really take a big hit well that way anyway.
More surface to weld to w/o using a gusset. You get more strength than a gusset would provide w/o the additional weight.
 

The Kadvang

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Espen said:
I think it's a Marz All Mountain. The 66 is a hardcore DH/FR fork. This bike is a hardcore trailbike and the new All M is made for that.
Nope, the SX has the 66 on it. You can tell because the AM crown has those cutouts in it, none here.
 

punkassean

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It is for sure a 66, I know this because I read it in the 2005 dealer manual. All 2005 enduro's have Fox 36's with only one exception, the SX trail. the SX trail is intended to be a "heavier duty freeride bike" than the long legged air sprung "trail bike" standard enduro's, it is specc'd much burlier than the other enduro models. It has 2.4" DH tires and coil sprung suspension. It is designed to fill the void between a Demo and an Enduro or P. series bike.

Espen said:
I think it's a Marz All Mountain. The 66 is a hardcore DH/FR fork. This bike is a hardcore trailbike and the new All M is made for that.
 
I will probably get the SX Trail. :thumb:

I really couldn't care less about the color- I'm not getting it to enter in bike shows...it's the low leverage ratio coilover four-bar that's got me excited.

Can anyone with better eyes than me identify some of the components, namely brakes, crankset/bb, stem/headset?
 

binary visions

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gastrocnemius said:
Can anyone with better eyes than me identify some of the components, namely brakes, crankset/bb, stem/headset?
Crankset is a Truvativ, brakes are Hayes. Stem and bars are going to be tough to identify with no brand markings at all...
 

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binary visions said:
Crankset is a Truvativ, brakes are Hayes. Stem and bars are going to be tough to identify with no brand markings at all...
my guess is the same as always...house brand Specialized.

somebody explain to me how "play" is going to help shock life....last time I checked "play" in the pivots caused off center torque loads leading to leaks, blown shocks, even bent shafts..."you said bent shaft...heh"

also, anybody besides me notice that the SX has a "SHAZAAM!" paint job? :D
 

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gastrocnemius said:
I will probably get the SX Trail. :thumb:
Can anyone with better eyes than me identify some of the components, namely brakes, crankset/bb, stem/headset?
Brakes: Hayes HFX9 8" F&R
Cranks: Truvativ Holzfeller 170mm
BB: Truvativ ISIS Giga pipe 118mm
Stem: Syncros Bear Hug 31.8mm
Headset: 1 1/8" Cro-Mo loose ball
Bars: Demo rise bar 31.8mm
 

binary visions

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bizutch said:
somebody explain to me how "play" is going to help shock life....last time I checked "play" in the pivots caused off center torque loads leading to leaks, blown shocks, even bent shafts..."you said bent shaft...heh"
It's not "play" in the traditional sense if it's anything like the bearings that are in the XC version of the 5th air shock. What it does is allow slightly off-center loads to still actuate the shock properly (the shock is allowed a certain amount of movement), without side-loading the shock.
 

punkassean

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In automotive applications these are often referred to as high-misalignment bushings. You might have heard them called spherical bearings, heim joints or even uni-balls as well...

They are a good thing for sure.
 

KleinMp99

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I just got a look at the 2005 dealer book.


Demo:
Demo 8 Boxxer team
Demo 8 Pro 888RR
Demo 9 888R
Demo 9 Pro Fox DH fork

Bighit:
Bighit FSR
Just one bighit

And there is an enduro SX, and an SX trail. The SX trail has a marzocchi 66 fork, 5th element with remote res and a custom mount for it. P3 has a sherman, P1 is steel. I think all the demo's were coming with blackspire chainguides with lexan outer plates. Their definately pushing the demo series and I think they might be phasing out the bighits.
 
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"holy skyscraper-BB...."

I highly doubt it.
Specialised bike generally have lower than average BB height.
Both my bighits (comp and DH) have really low BBs.
 

punkassean

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Last years was adjustable to either 12.9" or 13.2", that's actually fairly low, with a 5" fork it might hit 13.7" max. The new one will probably be a tad higher but the lowered CG (new shock placement) will pretty much negate any ill-effects due to a "somewhat" high-ish BB.

If you want more travel, you have to have a taller BB, no real way around it. However these bikes have lower BB's than most of their competition.