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2006 Nicolai site up... 2 types of DH G-boxx frames

ChrisRobin

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Jan 30, 2002
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Now they have a Nucleon TST 'evo' which is made of magnesium and titanium parts...obviously to lighten the frame since you still have that Rohloff hub in there.

And you have the regular TST which truely looks like something Nicolai would make.

Both of these make my Nucleon ST look like a heap! I hate myself.

www.nicolai.net
 

rpet

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Jun 9, 2003
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That TST Evo looks 10x better than any Nicolai to date. I don't want to know the price though.

-r
 

Sandwich

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that's definately not a nicolai, where are the speed holes?

needs more speed holes. then again, there are 300 bolts on the gboxx.
 

ohio

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Nov 26, 2001
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Whoa, the inboard brake caliper mount is just wierd. Why not just run the brake caliper backwards... are there that many directional brakes out there?
 

BMXman

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I need to get a big raise from my boss!...even though I only have one Nicolai left...they're by ar my favorite bike company....D
 

patineto

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AR_ said:
Awh why can't they just put a Gboxx on the M-pire. It's by far the nicest frame they do.
Somehow I agree with you about the Older ones, but this new G-Boxxes are so compact and the weight so close to the center of mass, i think they have a great concept going..

specially since everything is concentric in the swingarm pivot point and can run a single speed setup and the chain with out any tensioners, kind of like a BMW but with a well protect gear box as oppose to a expose derreileur.

also karl say the new prices will be lower (NO Idea how much) that the current stuff since the have a much more efficient production line, will see, personally i think the design is brilliant, even if I will love to see a "virtual pivot point"design for better suspension efficiency,,well life is full of compromises and i believe this bikes have a lot going for them in terms of integration, design and improve manufacturing sistems.

just the Opinion of a industrial designer (in Espanol) with more than 20 years of work and even more of riding bikes.
 

Sandwich

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looks to me like the middle part of the seat tube is entirely CNCed out of magnesium or whatever, can't be cheap
 
Oh yeah i totally agree about the lack of space deal on the M-pire, it's just something i wish could happen.

Ridiculous price for the TST Evo though. Well, relative to what sort of tech and materials are involved with the frame i guess, but who would pay it? :S
 

Trond

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How many bikes does Nicolai sell? They seem to be pushing the envelope in regards to design and construction every single year, on tons of models - it can't be a cheap process.
 

ChrisRobin

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I remember reading somewhere that they sold under 100 TST's last year. 50 frames sold comes to mind for some reason. Can't be a cheap process although they sell tons of their different frames in Europe.

Having a low center of gravity like that is killer, I can only imagine how nice these ones ride.
 

xy9ine

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Mar 22, 2004
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bike mag said nicolai has produced over 60 g-boxx frames; though that encompases several models over a couple years. i'm sure there's only an handfull of tst's out there.

the evo is looking amazingly refined. they've come a long way from the old nucleons in a very short time. must be a great place to work.

the new ufo st looks kinda neat also:

 

BMXman

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sixsixtysix said:
If anyone wants to know, the cost of the Nucleon TST Evo is about.... cough.... $8000 USD..... cough :drool:
according to U.S. distributors website they're under $6000...not that it's now affordable...D
 

WheelieMan

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The pricing of Nicolais is definitely outrageous, but it makes sense considering the complexity, low production runs, and also the fact that the company is located in Germany. The Demo 9 frame sells for over 3k and it's mass produced in Taiwan. Now that's rediculous.

Is the geometry of the evo frame listed on Nicolai's site? I'm not seeing it.
 

patineto

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Feb 19, 2002
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zmtber said:
wow awesom bikes but i thinnk this site has been up for a while
Note:i check nicolai's site at least ones a week ,since Karl send me some info

I don't think so....

well the site looks pretty much the same but the pictures of the new G-Boxxes became available only a few days ago.
 

dump

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Oct 12, 2001
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nicolai definitely tries... I just wish they were a bigger outfit, better distribution/support/lower_prices.